[Misc] Nice people you have known who you later discovered had a dark side.

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Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,009
East Wales
A neighbour of mine was in the army (catering) with Dennis Neilson, said he was a really nice bloke........
 






pearl

Well-known member
May 3, 2016
13,126
Behind My Eyes
I don't think I've had any experiences like posts on here tbh, but I can't stand 'nice' people, I find them transparent. I quite enjoy letting them think I'm taken in by their BS though.
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
I wouldn't say he was 'nice' but I worked with a fella who was sent down for having child porn on his computer.

As said I wouldn't call him nice, but he definitely wasn't even close to the top 10 of a*******s in that particular office.
 




Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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My father's best mate was someone who always seemed to treat life lightly. He was a successful solicitor and one of those people who always seemed to have a joke to tell. I got to know him reasonably well as I used to sit with my dad and his mates at the cricket. When my dad died, he was the first person to join me at the hospital and looked after me, putting me up for the night so I didn't have to face an empty house. He also took charge of much of the organisation of the funeral as I was too shell-shocked and, naturally, took responsibility of winding up my father's estate.

It was only a few months later that I discovered that he'd pocketed my dad's money as well as about £500k from other clients, many of whom also trusted him implicitly. As it was a white collar crime, he, of course, didn't go to jug and is still working around the area. Being a rogue solicitor is bad enough but his betrayal of someone who'd been his friend for about 30 years is as low as you can get.

Bloody hell that is absolutely shocking. My utter sympathies, what a scumbag. Didn't you get fleeced by a business partner as well?
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I fortunately have nothing like the stories on here. I've known a few bad eggs in my time, but I knew they were bad eggs right from the off.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Bloody hell that is absolutely shocking. My utter sympathies, what a scumbag. Didn't you get fleeced by a business partner as well?

Yes, I did. A guy who spent company money on high-class hookers. He was, at least, taking money that partly belonged to him. It caused me no end of grief - and caused the company to fold - but it didn't compare with the betrayal from the solicitor.

In an 18-month period I had my company taken away from me, split up with a long-term girlfriend, saw my dad die and his best friend rip us off. After that, everything has been plain sailing
 




dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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Everyone has a dark side or things in the past that they are ashamed about, obviously some are worse than others, but ultimately we all have a dark side, and anyone who says they don't is a lying psycho nut job.

There are many different shades of dark and whether it manifests itself into willfully and remorselessly hurting, exploiting or abusing others. While we all have a dark side the distinction is whether we have sufficient behavioural controls, self awareness, conscience and morality which prevents us or at least restricts us from giving our dark side free reign to malevolent ends at the cost of others.

Yeah, it goes something like this, "Be certain that you are evil and through that you will have the capacity to be good, be certain that you are good and through that you will have the capacity to be evil".
 


Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
I used to get taken to albion games with a friend of my Dads. He was an offsted inspector and an alter server at church. HE ws very popular with a lot of albion fans, known very well by a lot of the travelling support. My dad even did up his kitchen for free for all the kindness he was showing me.

turns out he was a pedophile along with the lot who sat around him at albion games. I was being used as a trophy to show off to his 'gang' at the Brighton matches. Once he was caught out by our friends who lived across the road from him when the mum, who cleaned his house, found a postcard from Thailand written on it "lost count". he quickly moved out of the city and went to Norwich . The next time I saw him was at Preston Park station where he was wearing a Norwich shirt after we played them.
and to think I went all the way to Carlisle with him on the train to watch a 0-0. Worst football experience of my life. Especially with the crowd I had to sit with.

He's passed away now.
 
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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,274
Withdean area
A near neighbour seemed like a nice 70 year old guy, the proverbial chatty grandad.

But as time moved on, it became apparent that he was a shit-stirring busibody and more.

1. He made up a laminate “Don’t park here” and put it under the wipers of a car he deemed as taking his spot. (Grandad had a lovely wide drive that could take 2 cars, but he felt territorial about street spaces).
2. When the car stayed there, he Nitromorsed it.
3. Knocked on our own neighbours door to ask to look at their connected drains, as we were having an extension. Our neighbour lived 100m from grandad and had never spoken with him before. Grandad then rang BHCC Building Control to snitch on our breach; they visited us unnannouced within an hour. (Grandad was a retired surveyor). BHCC said we’d done everything correctly.
4. Other elderly neighbours pulled up in their car, with one of them having a very severe asthma attack. Grandad refused to stop blocking their drive with his car, so they couldn’t park up, as they called 999.

So smiling grandad was a curtain-twitcher on steroids.

He keeled over of a heart attack a year later.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,274
Withdean area
My father's best mate was someone who always seemed to treat life lightly. He was a successful solicitor and one of those people who always seemed to have a joke to tell. I got to know him reasonably well as I used to sit with my dad and his mates at the cricket. When my dad died, he was the first person to join me at the hospital and looked after me, putting me up for the night so I didn't have to face an empty house. He also took charge of much of the organisation of the funeral as I was too shell-shocked and, naturally, took responsibility of winding up my father's estate.

It was only a few months later that I discovered that he'd pocketed my dad's money as well as about £500k from other clients, many of whom also trusted him implicitly. As it was a white collar crime, he, of course, didn't go to jug and is still working around the area. Being a rogue solicitor is bad enough but his betrayal of someone who'd been his friend for about 30 years is as low as you can get.

Was that a very long time ago?

Throught my profession I’ve come across or know several Sussex based solicitors or their staff who stole client monies. “Borrowed” counts as stolen ... there’s no grey area.

In every case the thief received long prison sentences AND are eventually made bankrupt by the Law Society Compensation Fund people.

These are relatively simple criminal cases to prove guilt. The rules are incredibly strict and cover all bases.
 


Charlies Shinpad

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Jul 5, 2003
4,415
Oakford in Devon
Went to school with a lad and were very good friends for years
I joined up he didn't and a year later he murdered an old man for the money he had won in the fruit machine at the pub.
The police didn't have a clue who it was until his mum found bloodstains on his jeans and informed the Police
Got Life but out now and relocated

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Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
Was that a very long time ago?

The court case was 1993. Amazingly, I (and several other victims) weren't called to give evidence. The police were convinced that he'd get several years in chokey and were amazed/hopping mad that he got off relatively lightly.
 




KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
21,094
Wolsingham, County Durham
A couple from my time in South Africa - both nice enough it appeared but both had very dark pasts. One was affiliated to BOSS (state security) during apartheid and seemed to spend most of his time in that era stirring up as much trouble as possible. He had "dead eyes" if you know what I mean. I am glad I didn't upset him! The other was and probably still is a mercenary who was part of Simon Mann's gang that attempted the 2004 coup in Equitorial Guinea.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,263


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