seagullwedgee
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[Football] Next team to suffer racist abuse at Spurs....
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Perfidious Albion
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Stewards will no doubt be super vigilant.... Probably nothing on Thursday.
Unless Spurs are losing again and Bissouma goes over to take a corner?...
Unless Spurs are losing again and Bissouma goes over to take a corner?...
Official Old Man
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Racist abuse or homophobic chanting?
QPR (was it 3 years back) walking back to the coach and a few oppo fans started the 'we can see you' chant. Police weren't interested when approached despite witnessing it.
I have strong thoughts about all this, and I'll put my hands up straight away to monkey chanting in the 70's at the Goldstone.
Scenario, a black guy is picked on by a white guy.
In a room of 100 people, another white guy will say something racist.
In a room of 1000 people, two white guys will back the white guy.
In a room of 10,000 people, 10 white guys may start a fight against the black guy.
In a stadium of 60,000 fans, 1 white guy said something. How can we stop that?
Also, if Spurs are 0:2 down, what's to stop the crowd chanting racist songs to get the game stopped?
Personally, I'm an old man now and completely changed, but not everyone has changed their attitudes, I just don't know how to solve it.
QPR (was it 3 years back) walking back to the coach and a few oppo fans started the 'we can see you' chant. Police weren't interested when approached despite witnessing it.
I have strong thoughts about all this, and I'll put my hands up straight away to monkey chanting in the 70's at the Goldstone.
Scenario, a black guy is picked on by a white guy.
In a room of 100 people, another white guy will say something racist.
In a room of 1000 people, two white guys will back the white guy.
In a room of 10,000 people, 10 white guys may start a fight against the black guy.
In a stadium of 60,000 fans, 1 white guy said something. How can we stop that?
Also, if Spurs are 0:2 down, what's to stop the crowd chanting racist songs to get the game stopped?
Personally, I'm an old man now and completely changed, but not everyone has changed their attitudes, I just don't know how to solve it.
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“Next team to suffer racist abuse at Spurs....“
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RossyG
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It’s a nothing chant that should be water off a duck’s back to all of us.
Best response is “You’re too ugly to be gay.”
Because you might get that game stopped but that will probably be the last game you ever see! If it is a crowd chanting then they might ban everyone they identify or they might pick out random ones to set an example (when I say random, I mean out of 100 chanting they'll ban 20). I'm sure they have a waiting list for season tickets.
With regard to racism, I doubt in most cases you ever really change a racist's mindset but what you can do is try and stop it spreading to the next generation. It won't (or hasn't) happened overnight but as you say, it is far better now than it was in the 70s.
I would suggest the best response is to ignore it. Report it if it gets worse and intimidatory.
Palacefinder General
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Indeed, bizarre thread.
Official Old Man
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100% with you on this, but I bet you're white.
Are you saying that a black player should just accept racism in the same way a Brighton fan should accept homophobia?
Brian Fantana
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It would help if they actually used the process properly, unlike yesterday.
RossyG
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Yes, I’m white.
I didn’t say that, no.
In your hypothetical example, someone would have been specifically targeted. The gay thing is just a general chant we get thrown at us. They don’t actually think we’re gay.
As for black players. Actually taking the piss out of their abusers might be the best thing they can do on a personal level (obviously the authorities have their own procedures). Bullies want their victims to be upset and indignant. If they’re scornful and jeer back, they don’t have much room for manoeuvre.
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A bit puzzled that if anyone does something racist, stupid or whatever publicly it’s all over social media. Some twunt in the crowd at Spurs makes racist noises and nobody saw anything? Don’t believe it myself.
Pavilionaire
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This could have happened at any ground in England. A minority of individuals think since the EU Referendum vote and Nigel's Syrian refugee poster they've been given a licence to be racist.
RossyG
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Yes, there was never any racist chanting in football before that.
Pavilionaire
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Things have clearly got worse in England from where we were 4 or 5 years ago. The rise in documented hate crimes is a matter of fact and a by-product of that is more racism in and around football. It doesn't surprise me and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
Yep and we dealt with it.
Similar to the way Cantona dealt with the shit he was getting I guess
Tom Hark Preston Park
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This. Supposed to be three strikes and the game is abandoned no? Bit of bottling out there, seems like. Shame. Could have sent the clearest message possible.