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Jim D

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
I see Betfred, Bet365 and Coral are all going 16/1 for promotion next season. One company that stands out as remarkably bad value is Victor Chandler, at a measly 9/1. Bearing in mind that Tony Bloom used to work for them, could it be that they've had a tipoff?
 






8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
I see Betfred, Bet365 and Coral are all going 16/1 for promotion next season. One company that stands out as remarkably bad value is Victor Chandler, at a measly 9/1. Bearing in mind that Tony Bloom used to work for them, could it be that they've had a tipoff?

hmm...

VICTOR CHANDLER
The 52-year-old Victor Chandler may spend more time in Spain and Gibraltar these days than he does at Ascot and Cheltenham but he remains the king of the high rollers and a fearless gambler who, in the words of a friend, 'Wants to lay every losing favourite and back every over-priced winner too.'

Victor's grandfather Bill Chandler was a legendary bookie-punter who won over £200,000 on the 1944 Derby (that's a figure in the millions in today's money). In keeping with the family tradition, the VC client list comprises all the big players - they bet with Chandler because they know they can get on.

The rest of us should always scrutinise the firm's odds because it takes serious money, often from well-connected sources, for them to significantly shorten up a price. Punters should also monitor the positions of Don Stewart, Victor's astute golf trader and Joe Fagan, the firm's top football odds compiler. Fagan is a canny Scotsman and devoted churchgoer with a reverence for value betting.

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Follow the VC market moves, especially on racing, and think carefully before opposing them where football and golf are concerned.

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RM-Taylor

He's Magic.... You Know
NSC Patron
Jan 7, 2006
15,307
16/1 is TO WIN THE LEAGUE, to get promotion it'll be difficult to find anything longer than 5/1
 


Jan 19, 2009
3,151
Worthing
Premier Bet's founder Tony Bloom was formerly trading director in charge of football at the Victor Chandler International offices in Gibraltar. A brilliant statistician and high-stakes poker player, Bloom is an extremely shrewd professional punter, especially where football is concerned. At the climax of the 1998 World Cup he advised Victor Chandler to bet their entire profit of the competition on France in the final - he won.

Bloom's other great love is American football and he's renowned for taking time out to study the form near warm weather NFL training camps in Florida and California during the British winter.

But despite all this, there is value to be found. Premier Bet, who have pioneered Asian handicap betting in the UK, is still a relatively new company, eager to attract customers. Sometimes they will open themselves up and take a position about a match or tournament that a bookmaker less hungry for business wouldn't dare to contemplate. That can give the punters an advantage.

TOP TIP:
Study their markets closely and respect Bloom's judgement, but remember that from time to time he'll give you a chance. If they ever start trading on the NFL they are likely to be a lot sharper than the Big Three.
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Those odds for promotion or to win the league?
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
To win the league, surely. If we are 16/1 for promotion i'd be very, very suprised.

that what I would have thought but original post said for promotion, so had to pose the question
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
. At the climax of the 1998 World Cup he advised Victor Chandler to bet their entire profit of the competition on France in the final - he won.

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That is worryingly cavalier imo :shrug:

*alwaysbeapoorman*
 




Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Premier Bet's founder Tony Bloom was formerly trading director in charge of football at the Victor Chandler International offices in Gibraltar. A brilliant statistician and high-stakes poker player, Bloom is an extremely shrewd professional punter, especially where football is concerned. At the climax of the 1998 World Cup he advised Victor Chandler to bet their entire profit of the competition on France in the final - he won.

Being really thick here but where does one bookies firm go to place that sort of money. Another bookie or is there some big network where bookies go to bet themselves?
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,949
Crap Town
16/1 is TO WIN THE LEAGUE, to get promotion it'll be difficult to find anything longer than 5/1

more likely to be 3/1 at best for a promotion spot or up via the play offs. :thumbsup:
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
Being really thick here but where does one bookies firm go to place that sort of money. Another bookie or is there some big network where bookies go to bet themselves?

Yes, bookies bet with each other, and these days of the internet, they go on sites such as Betfair and bet against other 'traders'. It's all a numbers game!.
 








Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Interstingly, VC are the first to shorten their odds on Huddersfield Town, after The Terriers made their third signing in ten days. Huddersfield and Brighton are now both 9/1 with Chandler.

That is interesting given that our squad is now weaker than it was at the end of a season where we finished well behind Huddersfield, whilst theirs is now stronger.
 






Whitterz

Mmmmm? Marvellous
Aug 9, 2008
3,212
Eastbourne
But we are absolute favorites :thumbsup: come on you Saints :lol:

But I do think under Poyet Brighton will have a great season too....

Southampton will be front runners, at this stage I wouldnt put any money on where we will finish. Because we have not signed anyone yet!
 




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