Just a French Chris Hughton isn't he?
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[Albion] Next manager?
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Just a French Chris Hughton isn't he?
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Based on what exactly. He's a nice man ?
Is that not enough for you
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- Jul 30, 2011
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Alan Mullery is around the Amex.
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And can we have Connor Goldson back as well please.
And can we have Connor Goldson back as well please.
Mullery would have gone absolutely berserk if a team under him had performed like that. He would have locked them in the stadium and given them all a Gestapo type grilling under the fierce glare of the floodlights!
Much better manager!
Comparing players and managers with different eras is impossible, but I agree. I don't think Hughton is the best manager we've ever had either, it's just been at one of the better periods in the clubs history.
Mullery would have gone absolutely berserk if a team under him had performed like that. He would have locked them in the stadium and given them all a Gestapo type grilling under the fierce glare of the floodlights!
Much better manager!
el punal
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Mullery would have gone absolutely berserk if a team under him had performed like that. He would have locked them in the stadium and given them all a Gestapo type grilling under the fierce glare of the floodlights!
Much better manager!
Okay, Mullers is definitely there equal with CH as Albion’s best manager. Totally different kettle of fish mind - a case of good cop, bad cop with Mullery being the latter. I remember on two occasions when Mullers was so hacked off with the team’s first half performance that he sent them back out onto the pitch early. The first was when we were playing Walsall and it was 0-0, we won that 7-0! The second was when we were playing Millwall at the start of our season in Division Two. At halftime we were 2-0 down, back onto the field well before the restart. It worked, we won 3-2.
It remains to be seen whether Chris Hughton has that anger and motivation to fire up the team. We’ll find out around 9.40 pm on Tuesday night.
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Chris Wilder for me.
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Don't get me wrong, I want CH to continue to be our manage now and next season - whether that's in the PL with a couple of 'midfield monsters' (to borrow somebody else's very apt phrase) bought in the summer, or in the Championship if it comes to that - but Big Sam is (I think) out of work at the moment, so what about offering him a million quid to come in as adviser/co-manager/consultant or whatever just for the remaining six matches to do a fire-fighting act? If it kept us up it would be a million quid well spent, no?
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
I don't think that could possibly work. It would undermine Chris ("sure, they say Big Sam is just here as an 'advisor', but he's obviously being lined up as a replacement, they don't want to spend the money to fire Hughton, so they're just making him quit.") Chris and Sam are two big name managers, with a lot of respect for their respective achievements, Hughton is well spoken and polite in public, but no way he would like that situation. It would be a slight on him and his ability ("we're 5 points clear of the relegation place, a game in hand, and I kept us up comfortably last season, wtf have the club brought in a 'fire fighter'?!"). Not to mention mixed messages to players with one manager suggesting one thing, another suggesting the opposite.
My concern is that there seem to be two schools of thought on management these days. One is the idea of management as a short-term job, and the pragmatism and realism this has developed in managers. They come in, make do with what they have, maybe buy a couple of players to get the team working. The other is the idea of the manager as the driving force behind the clubs philosophy - those that are there for the long haul, to build a team, squad and club ethic and identity. They engender loyalty in players who see their own performances and careers developing along with the club.
We currently have the latter. He came in when we were down, and rebuilt the squad and developed us into what we are today. I see Eddie Howe as a similar type. He has had the time to build and shape Bournemouth.
I'm not convinced it's easy to transition that type of manager these days. Because the replacement tends to take time, too. Even if it's a continuation, there's still a period of taking control, putting your stamp on every area. Look at the fates of Man Utd and Arsenal after they lost their long term managers, the way they were unsettled. We don't have the pedigree and reputation of MAn Utd or Arsenal - if we stay up and go on to struggle while replacing Hughton, I'm not sure we'd stay up next year.
The alternative is the short termer. Someone who isn't so concerned with the wider identity of the club. The problem with that is the development squad gets neglected, players come and go based on getting paid as much as they can and the moment more money is on offer elsewhere they go, potentially leaving you exposed and vulnerable to a poor season. There is just the idea that changing managers frequently becomes unsettling, becomes easier and a manager who could turn things around and lift the team higher than they were before a poor run gets sacked before they've really had a chance.
Either type of manager philosophy will have ups and downs. It's the nature of football. A team can dominate one year, and drop down the next, even with the same manager. Burnley went from having an away record like us, to having a great away record and qualifying for Europe to being one of the last teams to reach that magic 40 point mark (assuming they get there).
Can't say I'm looking forward to seeing how we react when Hughton goes (whether that's next week, the summer or ten years down the line).
We currently have the latter. He came in when we were down, and rebuilt the squad and developed us into what we are today. I see Eddie Howe as a similar type. He has had the time to build and shape Bournemouth.
I'm not convinced it's easy to transition that type of manager these days. Because the replacement tends to take time, too. Even if it's a continuation, there's still a period of taking control, putting your stamp on every area. Look at the fates of Man Utd and Arsenal after they lost their long term managers, the way they were unsettled. We don't have the pedigree and reputation of MAn Utd or Arsenal - if we stay up and go on to struggle while replacing Hughton, I'm not sure we'd stay up next year.
The alternative is the short termer. Someone who isn't so concerned with the wider identity of the club. The problem with that is the development squad gets neglected, players come and go based on getting paid as much as they can and the moment more money is on offer elsewhere they go, potentially leaving you exposed and vulnerable to a poor season. There is just the idea that changing managers frequently becomes unsettling, becomes easier and a manager who could turn things around and lift the team higher than they were before a poor run gets sacked before they've really had a chance.
Either type of manager philosophy will have ups and downs. It's the nature of football. A team can dominate one year, and drop down the next, even with the same manager. Burnley went from having an away record like us, to having a great away record and qualifying for Europe to being one of the last teams to reach that magic 40 point mark (assuming they get there).
Can't say I'm looking forward to seeing how we react when Hughton goes (whether that's next week, the summer or ten years down the line).
There are precedents. And I don't see that TB would not be able to convince CH that he was here for the long haul. Anyway, as I said, 'twas just a thought.
Weststander
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Haven’t Arsenal been markedly better throughout this season, which the first post Wenger season?
Point taken. I think they seem to go through periods where it looks like they are then periods where it looks like they're not, but maybe not the strongest example.
Weststander
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They went through their period of madness in the latter ten years Wenger in which held on to his job, as they fell further behind the rest.
Change at Barnham
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If we're looking for someone with a proven record of developing young players, playing a passing game and winning trophies look no further than Arsene Wenger.
Hopefully he's at the stage in his life where he would be looking for an exciting project rather than a massive pay day.
He would be an incredible manager for us.
What I think will happen is that we will beat Cardiff and Chris Hughton will be our manager next season.
Hopefully he's at the stage in his life where he would be looking for an exciting project rather than a massive pay day.
He would be an incredible manager for us.
What I think will happen is that we will beat Cardiff and Chris Hughton will be our manager next season.
Weststander
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Let’s just buy quality players, to give any manager a fighting chance,
In the hardest league in the world, the youngsters can wait, too risky.