[Politics] Next Conservative Leader - Rishi Sunak

[CHAPPERS]

Chris Philp, a Home Office minister, has said it is “a bit of a cheek” for people who he said had “entered the UK illegally” to complain about conditions.

Chris Philp is a ''bit of a ****'' isn't he.

 

[Audax]

I went along to the Newick Bonfire last weekend, and was talking with my mate whos part of the Society. Told him they missed a trick by not having a Johnson or Truss effigy...& his reply was that it wouldn't have gone down at all well in the village if it had been proposed. Hes staunch anti-Tory, but it doesn't sound like the rest of Newick is!

I used to drive through Newick regularly for my pre-pandemic commute. Prior to the Brexit vote, there was a near-permanent pro-UKIP / pro-Brexit billboard in place near the pub.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Chris Philp, a Home Office minister, has said it is “a bit of a cheek” for people who he said had “entered the UK illegally” to complain about conditions.

I wonder what he would think if he were arrested for drink driving and left in a cell with a homeless family without a phone or a chance for a wash till he got scabies. Would it be a bit of a cheek if he complained?

On the other hand, if illegal immigrants are not allowed to have human rights, why can't we simply kill them and boil them to make pills and soap?

 

[A1X]

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Chris Philp, a Home Office minister, has said it is “a bit of a cheek” for people who he said had “entered the UK illegally” to complain about conditions.

Chris Philp is lying again when he knows full well it is not illegal to seek asylum. Lying is a habit with him.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

Whilst Brexit is the cause of a lot of shit right now, I am not too sure that in this instance it is having so much of an effect and blanket blaming takes away from the actual issues it has caused. As you can see, we are far from alone in this, in fact, we are less worse off than many countries still in the EU. I think Russia is without doubt a cause though and maybe the longer term knock on effects of Covid more than Brexit.

My view is different.

I believe this inflation is an adjustment to a new geopolitical and economic climate and in this case, it's arguably a one off event. Prices will rise and will stay at those levels, Inflation is simply not going to compound as it is not systemic inflation within the economy which means it will reduce on its own over time. The BOE have highlighted this themselves in their forecasts.
Using interest rates is a very crude and pretty ineffective method to reduce wage inflation and takes 18-24 months to really take effect. Doing this now, simply plunges the economy into a recession and it is totally unnecessary. The only people to benefit are the banks who can earn more interest, the wealthy with savings and the government supporters who want to create a low-wage economy.

 

[Motogull]

I went along to the Newick Bonfire last weekend, and was talking with my mate whos part of the Society. Told him they missed a trick by not having a Johnson or Truss effigy...& his reply was that it wouldn't have gone down at all well in the village if it had been proposed. Hes staunch anti-Tory, but it doesn't sound like the rest of Newick is!

Tell him to suggest a Jeremy Corbyn one next year.

The Tories would have been buried if he had become leader again and was subsequently found to have misled Parliament, for which there seems to be plenty of evidence.

I'm not so sure. He has enough support that will say it was a fit up or such other nonsense.

 

[beorhthelm]

My view is different.

I believe this inflation is an adjustment to a new geopolitical and economic climate and in this case, it's arguably a one off event. Prices will rise and will stay at those levels, Inflation is simply not going to compound as it is not systemic inflation within the economy which means it will reduce on its own over time. The BOE have highlighted this themselves in their forecasts.
Using interest rates is a very crude and pretty ineffective method to reduce wage inflation and takes 18-24 months to really take effect. Doing this now, simply plunges the economy into a recession and it is totally unnecessary. The only people to benefit are the banks who can earn more interest, the wealthy with savings and the government supporters who want to create a low-wage economy.

if BoE didnt raise rates, pound would suffer, increasing prices of imports. add to that claims they hadnt done "something". all the time there is inflation way above target, and US raises rates, we'll follow. even though everyone knows its not doing to job and we need energy to come down, China to stop lockdown.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

if BoE didnt raise rates, pound would suffer, increasing prices of imports. add to that claims they hadnt done "something". all the time there is inflation way above target, and US raises rates, we'll follow. even though everyone knows its not doing to job and we need energy to come down, China to stop lockdown.

Or, they could leave them alone (or even reduce them) and let the governments economic policy play out. Greater tax income and a stronger economic plan to manage debt would boost the pound and therefore curb inflationary pressure from imports.
However, this would mean putting in place taxes and controls to better balance the books many of which would be unpopular with their backers but would be better for Britain.
To me this situation favours the banks and the wealthy.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Chris Philp is a ''bit of a ****'' isn't he.

Sorry. I have to take issue with ‘bit of a’. Replace that with ‘total’ and I’m in.

 

[beorhthelm]

Or, they could leave them alone (or even reduce them) and let the governments economic policy play out. Greater tax income and a stronger economic plan to manage debt would boost the pound and therefore curb inflationary pressure from imports.
However, this would mean putting in place taxes and controls to better balance the books many of which would be unpopular with their backers but would be better for Britain.
To me this situation favours the banks and the wealthy.

increasing taxes will also hurt growth, bring on recession, so end up in the same place. there is a right curve take that rates are rising so they can be lowered later on, aiding the next growth cycle. we're heading for recesssion regardless of rates and tax rates, the production and prices data across Europe are awful, just matter of how deep and long it lasts. we're a little better off here because our bank can tweek the rates for our economic outlook.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well Rishi has been an MP for seven years and is now in charge of the whole country, and was chancellor in less time than most apprenticeships take. It seems to me that he needs to pull his finger out

 

[rogersix]

increasing taxes will also hurt growth, bring on recession, so end up in the same place. there is a right curve take that rates are rising so they can be lowered later on, aiding the next growth cycle. we're heading for recesssion regardless of rates and tax rates, the production and prices data across Europe are awful, just matter of how deep and long it lasts. we're a little better off here because our bank can tweek the rates for our economic outlook.

and, never forget, considerably worse of from being outside the largest trading block in the world

 

[Barnet Seagull]

increasing taxes will also hurt growth, bring on recession, so end up in the same place. there is a right curve take that rates are rising so they can be lowered later on, aiding the next growth cycle. we're heading for recesssion regardless of rates and tax rates, the production and prices data across Europe are awful, just matter of how deep and long it lasts. we're a little better off here because our bank can tweek the rates for our economic outlook.

Increases taxes on the wealthy hurt growth less.

 

[beorhthelm]

and, never forget, considerably worse of from being outside the largest trading block in the world

when German economy is in the toilet, all of europe will be severely affected regardless of EU membership. dont think people here realise quite how bad the data is.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Rishi seem to have pretty poor judgement.

This appointment error is unraveling this morning:

“Rishi Sunak is facing claims he knew Sir Gavin Williamson was facing a complaint of bullying the day before he appointed him a cabinet minister.” BBC

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Beware of Sunak as he’s a big fan of the ‘Freeports’ or Charter Cities, or investment zones, take your pick which description fits.

The sooner we get this lot out, the better.

I'm bouncing this and quoting myself because I didn't want to start a new thread, but keep your eyes open for the Charter Cities otherwise mislabeled as Freeports.

129 trees have been felled in Plymouth city centre for redevelopment of the area. Just 17 were saved when a tree preservation order was rushed from the court, but as the developers had started overnight, it was too late for the majority.
The Labour MP, Luke Pollard (yes, that's his name) highlighted the issue, to constituents, who found out the email of the Tory councillor involved, who has now resigned. It seems this Tory councillor has links to Tufton Street.








If you think it only applies to Plymouth, there have already been problems with access to Dartmoor, where 'owners' have tried banning hikers and campers.

The plan for the 'Solent Freeport' includes the New Forest. National Parks mean nothing to this cabal in government if a profit can be made.