[Albion] Newcastle United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[Raleigh Chopper]

Yes, the "pigs" in Animal Farm talk.

Yet its still not a book about talking pigs. Yes, I understand it could be quite hard to understand if you are the type of person Whitechapel described. Maybe a quote from the author himself could possibly give you a hint from which a deeper understanding could develop: "Of course I intended it primarily as a satire on the Russian revolution".

Yes, I know all that, I was just being facetious, sorry.

 

[OzMike]

Yes, I know all that, I was just being facetious, sorry.

He must be new to the board and not spotted the scarcastic retort.

 

[OzMike]

Good game, an away point in this league is always good, in all circumstances.
You just feel that the goals are coming soon.
Any other day that ball would have been over the line.
Wish I had stayed up for it now.

 

[Dick Head]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the NSC people for having the "ignore" function to deal with masochist people like this "spence" guy. Was very obvious last week that this dudes interest in Brighton revolves around finding the most negative angle at any point regardless of whats actually happening. I know he subconsciously believes feeling negative about others makes him feel better about himself but fortunately its not how it works.

While I realise its a sad personality disorder and I sort of feel bad for the guy, its still pretty tiresome to watch. I'm probably not the only one having that feeling. My advice to people: while critical thinking is good & interesting stuff, some people you could just ignore without missing out on anything, because they are not really talking about Brighton/football but merely using this forum as a vehicle to deal with their own issues in a way that is very non-constructive.

**** off!

 

[Guinness Boy]

The problem is; some of these people who see the game better actually don’t. At all.

They base their entire judgement of the game on the final score. They don’t understand nuance, let alone see it. We drew 0-0 so today was bad. They don’t take anything else in to consideration. They don’t look at the fact we were missing numerous first team players, they don’t look at the excellent debut from a youth team player who had a goal ruled out for a marginal offside. They don’t look at the fact that our 19 year old wonder-kid was denied an excellent first goal by a ludicrously good piece of defending. They don’t see and understand the massive spike in performances this season. They just see the result, they don’t understand anything more than 0-0. There’s no point them even watching the game, it’s just moving images and whitenoise.


These idiots could sit and read Animal Farm and come away thinking it was a book about talking pigs.

Early contender for post of the football season. I'd give you two thumbs up if I could.

 

[Stat Brother]

Early contender for post of the football season. I'd give you two thumbs up if I could.

But the pig does talk.

 

[NotABrightonFan]

The hardest thing to do is create good chances against compact defences, as a Man Utd fan, trust me - I know. I wouldn't be worried, you're playing some very good football, not just possession for possessions sake but consistently breaking the lines and getting into great positions. Unfortunately, the players in the final third let you down today, numerous times easy passes weren't played which would have put people in great positions, Maupay especially was guilty of this, shooting from all kinds of angles instead of putting it on a plate for a teammate.

Multiple times you were one/two passes away from scoring a beautiful goal, keep the faith!

 

[LamieRobertson]

When peeps looked at the team announced before the match i bet they didn't think it would play as well as that

 

[kevo]

When peeps looked at the team announced before the match i bet they didn't think it would play as well as that

True dat. My worry is we are not converting good performances into goals. Perhaps Connolly might provide the answer.

 

[warmleyseagull]

There's lots to understand about that.

But I would begin with trying to grasp that Animal Farm is not about talking pigs.

No, of course the sub text isn't, but at a superficial level it is talking pigs (well, let's say animals). The metaphor can be reversed. Football is defined by goals. Superficially, we are not scoring enough; the sub-text is that the new style and approach provide hope that performances will turn into goals and turn into results. But that is not guaranteed which is why the uber optimism about New World is overplayed IMO. You can delve too deep, believe in the New World, then when relegation dooms, think like Boxer:

"I do not understand it. I would not have believed that such things could happen on our farm. It must be due to some fault in ourselves. The solution, as I see it, is to work harder. From now onwards I shall get up a full hour earlier in the mornings."

 

[perseus]

When peeps looked at the team announced before the match i bet they didn't think it would play as well as that

Strange that the whole starting XI were right footed. All except Bong in the squad.

 

[B-right-on]

When peeps looked at the team announced before the match i bet they didn't think it would play as well as that

You could hear the surprise of Jamie Redknapp and Shola Ameyobi after the game when taking to GPott about the way we played and dominated the game. JR said its the first game he's see us play this season and he was well impressed (not that means much but from a neutrals perspective, its interesting his commments). SA was also equally impressed with us and how we dominated his Toon team at SJP.

 

[Albion my Albion]

were loose

wee dewded 0 - 0

 

[Stato]

No, of course the sub text isn't, but at a superficial level it is talking pigs (well, let's say animals). The metaphor can be reversed. Football is defined by goals. Superficially, we are not scoring enough; the sub-text is that the new style and approach provide hope that performances will turn into goals and turn into results. But that is not guaranteed which is why the uber optimism about New World is overplayed IMO. You can delve too deep, believe in the New World, then when relegation dooms, think like Boxer:

"I do not understand it. I would not have believed that such things could happen on our farm. It must be due to some fault in ourselves. The solution, as I see it, is to work harder. From now onwards I shall get up a full hour earlier in the mornings."

My optimism is based on the truth that in yesterday's game all teams were equal, but one team was more equal than the other.

 

[ac gull]

missing ingredient is confidence

getting any result against a top six type side in next two league games will solve this problem quite quickly

its all about imposing ourselves on game rather than being in defensive mode all game

fact that we are so low in table should mean that other higher profile teams think they just have to turn up to beat us - far less likely to be true this season than last season

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

The problem is; some of these people who see the game better actually don’t. At all.

They base their entire judgement of the game on the final score. They don’t understand nuance, let alone see it. We drew 0-0 so today was bad. They don’t take anything else in to consideration. They don’t look at the fact we were missing numerous first team players, they don’t look at the excellent debut from a youth team player who had a goal ruled out for a marginal offside. They don’t look at the fact that our 19 year old wonder-kid was denied an excellent first goal by a ludicrously good piece of defending. They don’t see and understand the massive spike in performances this season. They just see the result, they don’t understand anything more than 0-0. There’s no point them even watching the game, it’s just moving images and whitenoise.


These idiots could sit and read Animal Farm and come away thinking it was a book about talking pigs.

It was very disappointing yesterday, but we thoroughly deserved to win. But we did have a goal disallowed and a goal denied by a tremendous goal-line clearance, and those two coming from the two youngsters being blooded. What's not to like!!

But I was sitting at home watching it feeling immensely proud of and happy about the football we were playing. Entertaining is an inadequate word!

And Animal Farm is about Talking Pigs, but it is about a lot more than that!! Some midfielders are more equal than others.

 

[portlock seagull]

missing ingredient is confidence

getting any result against a top six type side in next two league games will solve this problem quite quickly

its all about imposing ourselves on game rather than being in defensive mode all game

fact that we are so low in table should mean that other higher profile teams think they just have to turn up to beat us - far less likely to be true this season than last season

No, the missing ingredient is skill. Quite a few players have several seasons of proof that they can’t shoot on target. Or maybe even shoot. Watch the warm ups too. They tell a story. It’s why £25million on a striker at this level is a gamble. Even double that’s no guarantee of goals or assists. Plenty of flops commanded such premiums.

 

[Murray 17]

The problem is; some of these people who see the game better actually don’t. At all.

They base their entire judgement of the game on the final score. They don’t understand nuance, let alone see it. We drew 0-0 so today was bad. They don’t take anything else in to consideration. They don’t look at the fact we were missing numerous first team players, they don’t look at the excellent debut from a youth team player who had a goal ruled out for a marginal offside. They don’t look at the fact that our 19 year old wonder-kid was denied an excellent first goal by a ludicrously good piece of defending. They don’t see and understand the massive spike in performances this season. They just see the result, they don’t understand anything more than 0-0. There’s no point them even watching the game, it’s just moving images and whitenoise.


These idiots could sit and read Animal Farm and come away thinking it was a book about talking pigs.

Mark '0-2' Lawrenson?

 

[Icy Gull]

missing ingredient is confidence

getting any result against a top six type side in next two league games will solve this problem quite quickly

its all about imposing ourselves on game rather than being in defensive mode all game

fact that we are so low in table should mean that other higher profile teams think they just have to turn up to beat us - far less likely to be true this season than last season

When have we been in defensive mode this season, must have missed that game

 

[Bwian]

When have we been in defensive mode this season, must have missed that game

And we are really looking like we lack confidence

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