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Newcastle United Vs Brighton & Hove Albion ***Official Match Thread***



HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Nov 9, 2009
10,359
Unfortunately the game was lost before we started, due to CH's team selection. There is simply no other way to put it - it was obvious he got it wrong at the start of the game, and so it proved to be the case. The biggest worry is that this is a trend following on from last season and that he still hasn't learned what is a really obvious lesson.

Come on then Jose, what should the team have been?
 








Diablo

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Sep 22, 2014
4,383
lewes
A bad performance all round for Brighton but the eventaul result hinged on 3 mistakes:

(a)1st goal bad positioning a talking with the back four.
(b) Stephens should have been on for Sidwell after 20 mins to shackle Shelvey but at the worst when SB was red carded to give us an attacking option from midfield
(c) Poor decision by ref for 2nd yellow but keeper made a meal of a nothing attempt to block him clearing tge ball.

Very few positives today but we will come again and finish runners up to Newcastle who will walk the division.

Three mistakes I agree, but different ones to you. Mistake one, letting in first goal. Mistake two, letting in second goal.Mistake three, not scoring. The fact is if we hadn`t made these three mistakes we would have won!!!!
 


Boy Blue

Banned
Mar 14, 2016
766
Stephens start in place of Sidwell and debatebly Maenpaa for Stockdale who made a mistake and gave away a goal at Reading.
Hindsight but today he had 2 saves to make in the entire game and didnt save either.

He can only save them when they're straight at him and then he still needs to punch the ball.
 






sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
4,079
Here we go another expert FIFA manager.

Or a guy that watches Brighton every week, and sees the same pattern being repeated over and over again.

Hughton's a good manager, but the best managers react to the opposition they're playing in certain games. Hughton doesn't do this, and it costs us when we come up against teams of equal or better quality. It's telling that Benitez picked a team with a runner wide left to nullify our right back, an attacking right back to allow them to overload alongside Ritchie down that side where we've started the season poorly, and a deep lying striker who was willing to drop in and overload us even further in midfield, often leaving a 4 v 2 in that area where they already had Diame helping Hayden and Shelvey overload us.

What did Hughton do to counteract their strengths in the middle of the park? Well, he played the same system and the same team he does every week I.e. Nothing.

I appreciate that thinking about a game is too much for patronising little minds like yours, but it's not beyond some of us. And it shouldn't be beyond Hughton, yet he keeps making the same mistakes in these types of games.
 


Nixonator

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Feb 8, 2016
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Shoreham Beach
Stephens start in place of Sidwell and debatebly Maenpaa for Stockdale who made a mistake and gave away a goal at Reading.
Hindsight but today he had 2 saves to make in the entire game and didnt save either.

There is no reasoning for not having played Stephens in that game. His absence has been glaringly obvious in the last 2 league games.

I accepted Reading, but there's no way he wouldn't have been ready today. CH is not an idiot, I don't believe for a second that under normal circumstances Dale would not have been playing in this game. If it was a case of fitness then at the very least he would have been brought on at HT for a poor Sidwell. This has convinced me his heart is clearly not in it for whatever reason and i've joined the cynics. I'm gutted.
 






HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Nov 9, 2009
10,359
Dont think Stephens was ever going to start or come on, maybe should of started with Norwood and Kayel.
Whilst I partly agree Maenpaa is worth a start, and looks very good, I cant see CH dropping Stockie unless he has a real bad run.
Also, changing the keeper wouldnt have changed tonights result IMHO

Maybe should have done better with the first goal, but I dont think a keeper in the world would stop the 2nd.
Two dead ball strikers that are very good, god distance and central to the goal, he had to assume which one would strike it, he chose Ritchie, and Shelvey took it.
He had to choose one or the other.
 






The Tactician

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Feb 18, 2013
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stephens start in place of sidwell and debatebly maenpaa for stockdale who made a mistake and gave away a goal at reading.
Hindsight but today he had 2 saves to make in the entire game and didnt save either.

as if you are blaming stockdale omg.
 


Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
4,416
This is what you get when you dress your players to look like traffic cones. They play like traffic cones.

Employing your logic you must look like a twerp.
 


sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
4,079
Stephens start in place of Sidwell and debatebly Maenpaa for Stockdale who made a mistake and gave away a goal at Reading.
Hindsight but today he had 2 saves to make in the entire game and didnt save either.

Well they had Mitrovic and Gayle out, meaning Perez, who is a deep lying forward, was likely to be their sole striker. Having looked at their sides so far this season, it was likely to Diame and Hayden, plus another in midfield. That already gives them superiority in that area. So the first thing I'd have done is played an extra man in midfield. I know it's mind blowing, but we're away from home against a side that has players of at least equal quality, and a manager that is proven to be tactically astute, as well as having a new defender making his debut for us who will undoubtedly need protection having not had the best start to the season. So why would we cede that area in front of the defence and across the midfield before the game has even started?
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
as if you are blaming stockdale omg.

Possible had better position for the 2nd goal and perhaps could have be made to force his way back into the team,but hard to fault for the goals really.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Dont think Stephens was ever going to start or come on, maybe should of started with Norwood and Kayel.
Whilst I partly agree Maenpaa is worth a start, and looks very good, I cant see CH dropping Stockie unless he has a real bad run.
Also, changing the keeper wouldnt have changed tonights result IMHO

Maybe should have done better with the first goal, but I dont think a keeper in the world would stop the 2nd.
Two dead ball strikers that are very good, god distance and central to the goal, he had to assume which one would strike it, he chose Ritchie, and Shelvey took it.
He had to choose one or the other.

Good analysis. The second goal was a beauty.
 


fleet

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Jul 28, 2003
12,248
There is no reasoning for not having played Stephens in that game. His absence has been glaringly obvious in the last 2 league games.

I accepted Reading, but there's no way he wouldn't have been ready today. CH is not an idiot, I don't believe for a second that under normal circumstances Dale would not have been playing in this game. If it was a case of fitness then at the very least he would have been brought on at HT for a poor Sidwell. This has convinced me his heart is clearly not in it for whatever reason and i've joined the cynics. I'm gutted.

Two obvious things - he isn't in the correct state of mind to play, we are a much worse team without him and need some quality into midfield if he does go in this week!
 










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