Newcastle United (and West Ham) under investigation over transfers

[Dick Head]

 

[Icy Gull]

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A lot of pies have been consumed by those two

 

[The Fish]

Imagine the Swindon fans said the same

Perhaps. But have you read the egregious nature of their breaches of the rules?

I'd be staggered if this was more than dodgy agents and our schmuck of an MD trying to dodge some tax. If found guilty they should be punished fully, and if their dealings illegally benefited Newcastle United we should be fined a commensurate amount.

Points deductions are for opposition fans to bray for.

This doesn't say they've been visited, but asked for info, which is different from being raided.

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And this article says they've been visited, which is what I said.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...rce=footballnewsdaily.net&utm_medium=referral

 

[Official Old Man]

BBC 5 Live have just said the ammount is in the region of £5 Million of unpaid tax & NI.
That seems a very very small sum to throw 180 officers at.
I can only presume they are nailed on guilty and it is an easy job. Maybe they should open a coffee shop!

 

[Papa Lazarou]

BBC 5 Live have just said the ammount is in the region of £5 Million of unpaid tax & NI.
That seems a very very small sum to throw 180 officers at.
I can only presume they are nailed on guilty and it is an easy job. Maybe they should open a coffee shop!

Maybe the expect other clubs to voluntarily fall into line following a couple of high profile test cases?

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Here's a convoluted scenario... the 6th placed team finishes on 78 points, Newcastle lose both their remaining games and finish on 88 points, and are then docked 10 points. They'd knock the other team out and finish 6th on virtue of a having a higher goal difference.

I'd be mightily pissed off if I was the team that missed out because of another team breaking the rules!

This won't be sorted by the middle of May though, will it.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Wow Joey Barton and now this...... if palarse get pulled in and Brenda Song is at home on her knees waiting for me when I get in then I'll know this day has gone perfectly

 

[Gullys Cats]

BREAKING: My understanding is that HM Revenue & Customs are investigating transfer activity at Newcastle United & that Lee Charnley has been arrested.

Info from: https://twitter.com/CaulkinTheTimes

Hopefully West Ham get relegated to League One.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Can't see anything coming of this. Ashley, the Golds and Karen Brady are all Tory supporters. At most they'll both do a small sweet-heart deal with the government and that'll be the end of it. This is how it works isn't it?

 

[pornomagboy]

after Mondays muted celebrations after gaining promotion do you think the club had an idea this was going to be happening, it seemed strange that the players showed little emotion

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[tiberious]

It's a far better league than the premiership......Christ some people

We know it is and so do they but they thought they would walk it. As they did not its obviously a sht league .. to use the pompei phrase TWATS

 

[Gwylan]

Can't see anything coming of this. Ashley, the Golds and Karen Brady are all Tory supporters. At most they'll both do a small sweet-heart deal with the government and that'll be the end of it. This is how it works isn't it?

Of course it is.

I once worked for a company who's owner was a party member and had briefly worked at Conservative central office. We discovered that, while he'd been deducting PAYE and NI from our salaries, not a penny was passed on to HMRC. That's for about a dozen employees for about seven years.

A group of us gave evidence to the tax authorities, copies of payslips, affidavits, P60s, the works, despite this, no action was taken, he didn't have to pay any of it back and, a few years later, I was contacted by one of his current employees who had discovered that none of his tax deductions were being paid to HMRC.

So, yes, the chances of any action taken against prominent Tory supporters is zilch, zero, nada ...

 

[flint]

It seems to me that a very large number of HMRC staff have been deployed against high profile newsworthy targets for what amounts to a very small sum in the context of overall tax collections. Yes where tax is due it should be paid but unless this leads on to a substantial number of other cases the effort would have better been spent on working out how to get larger tax payments from Amazon, Google, Apple, etc etc

 

[Hampster Gull]

Of course it is.

I once worked for a company who's owner was a party member and had briefly worked at Conservative central office. We discovered that, while he'd been deducting PAYE and NI from our salaries, not a penny was passed on to HMRC. That's for about a dozen employees for about seven years.

A group of us gave evidence to the tax authorities, copies of payslips, affidavits, P60s, the works, despite this, no action was taken, he didn't have to pay any of it back and, a few years later, I was contacted by one of his current employees who had discovered that none of his tax deductions were being paid to HMRC.

So, yes, the chances of any action taken against prominent Tory supporters is zilch, zero, nada ...

No tory voter pays tax, did you not know this? Keep up, its why they keep winnnig elections and the public finances are so rubbish

 

[lizard]

Do what the SFA did to Rangers and dump the pair of them into the forth-tier for next season?


If only.

 

[Chief Wiggum]

Is the bloke on the left a Japanese sniper?

 

[Weststander]

It seems to me that a very large number of HMRC staff have been deployed against high profile newsworthy targets for what amounts to a very small sum in the context of overall tax collections. Yes where tax is due it should be paid but unless this leads on to a substantial number of other cases the effort would have better been spent on working out how to get larger tax payments from Amazon, Google, Apple, etc etc

Your confusing two totally different matters:

HMRC are enforcing black and white laws set down by the the courts, tribunals and parliament. Simply doing their job and quite rightly. There's also a deterrent factor in that most clubs, agents and players will want to stay the right side of tax law. The football industry is now multi £B so the tax sums could be huge if left to its own devices.

Amazon, Starbucks & co are exploiting their multi national status, legally. Most people would think it obscene that they pay very little tax on profits (Corporation Tax in the U.K.). It will need all the leading economies and tax havens to work together to crack this. Unfortunately countries such as the Republic of Ireland and Luxembourg won't truly cooperate, as those companies base themselves there paying a low % in CT but employing a lot of people paying a relatively high amount in taxes for their smaller economies. It's beyond HMRC's control until governments work together.

 

[portlock seagull]

Why don't HMRC go after the estimated £25 billion p.a. owed by top corporations according to National Office of Stats?

Oh, it's because this is easier (both in terms of headlines and prosecution)

 

[portlock seagull]

Your confusing two totally different matters:

HMRC are enforcing black and white laws set down by the the courts, tribunals and parliament. Simply doing their job and quite rightly. There's also a deterrent factor in that most clubs, agents and players will want to stay the right side of tax law. The football industry is now multi £B so the tax sums could be huge if left to its own devices.

Amazon, Starbucks & co are exploiting their multi national status, legally. Most people would think it obscene that they pay very little tax on profits (Corporation Tax in the U.K.). It will need all the leading economies and tax havens to work together to crack this. Unfortunately countries such as the Republic of Ireland and Luxembourg won't truly cooperate, as those com

Don't think he is. More you've swallowed the "it's more complicated than that" ruse spun decade after decade by the ruling elite; the very clever accountants who set up governements complex tax rules and then sell their services to the very rich and powerful afterwards regarding how to avoid paying them! In a word: Farce.

Still our balance of payments will be sorted by this latest action. Getting Newcastle and West Ham to pay some more money will sort the NHS out.

 

[tiberious]

Why don't HMRC go after the estimated £25 billion p.a. owed by top corporations according to National Office of Stats?

Oh, it's because this is easier (both in terms of headlines and prosecution)

But football is the only business that when they go into Administration teh players get paid in full before HMRC and creditors. As such over the years they have cost the nation millions. f the rules were as for normal business it would stop the pompies and palaces of this world getting in top players on ridiculous wages and as such owing HMRC more.We ,
moan about the rich paying more tax to help the nhs but these football players are the rich.