Newcastle United (and West Ham) under investigation over transfers

[hans kraay fan club]

I tend to agree

HMRC Enquiries into companies in this instance Newcastle Utd would not give powers to arrest individuals within the club. From the information out in the media to date it sort of looks like potential individual wrong doings by an individual, in this case, Lee Charnley.

HMRC set up a ''Special Office'' in Telford to Investigate footballers and football clubs in the late 1980s. That all moved in the last 10 years or so and Specialist teams were set up which linked the players, the clubs and other outside media sources. Lots of manpower went into investigating football and has proved a lucrative ''claw back'' of unpaid taxes for HMRC. Long may it continue because why should all these wealthy people avoid paying tax due. They get paid loads of money. It's only greed that makes them not want to pay tax on what is very large sums of money.

Pay tax according to the laws of the land, that's what I say. No more, no less.

Well this is a story and a half. I am so looking forward to attending the court to watch proceedings if it goes that far. The only link I potentially see in transfers between Newcastle Utd and West Ham would potentially be ''sell on clauses'' in the Andy Carroll Transfers. I can't off the top of my head think of any other players moving between those clubs directly or indirectly

Kevin Nolan did, but its almost certainly not relevant anyway - the French links suggest that the two clubs are individually under investigation - ie entirely separate cases.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Please can it conclude with Sissoko being locked up.

 

[Stat Brother]

Think you'll find it's related to (separate) deals with French sides, not between the two clubs.

According to this site both clubs have bought and sold with Marseille, over recent years, as well as a few loan deals.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/newc...62/plus/0?saison_id=2016&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

 

[Thunder Bolt]

HMRC bring their own prosecutions, so police not involved.

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[Notters]

This suggests that it's just Newcastle with West Ham cooperating. https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...investigation-transfers-lee-charnley-arrested

 

[Driver8]

If you had to name two clubs whose boards would try something a little dodgy those two wouldn't be far off the top of the list.

 

[Was not Was]

This suggests that it's just Newcastle with West Ham cooperating. https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...investigation-transfers-lee-charnley-arrested

Well, surely publicly subsidised West Ham United wouldn't defraud HMRC - that would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[Withdean11]

If you had to name two clubs whose boards would try something a little dodgy those two wouldn't be far off the top of the list.

Only behind Palarse.

 

[BBassic]

If there are any points deductions to go around it'd be so helpful for us if it was next season.

 

[Marxo]

They had enough staff to send 50 people to West Ham.

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I saw that too and found it a startling number, FIFTY that's like in American TV shows.

 

[Stat Brother]

I saw that too and found it a startling number, FIFTY that's like in American TV shows.

Only if they shot the place to bits, killing 3 of their own officers in the process.

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

If there are any points deductions to go around it'd be so helpful for us if it was next season.

Has the Premier League ever given a points deduction

 

[Wardy]

Has the Premier League ever given a points deduction

Always a first

 

[Washie]

HMRC say "arrests relate to £5m of suspected income tax and national insurance fraud." More on #SSNHQ dont nkow how to embed tweets

 

[BBassic]

Has the Premier League ever given a points deduction

Pompey in 09/10, a 9 point deduction.

 

[NooBHA]

Think you'll find it's related to (separate) deals with French sides, not between the two clubs.

Ah OK that's plausible

 

[Stat Brother]

If you had to name two clubs whose boards would try something a little dodgy those two wouldn't be far off the top of the list.

Only behind Palarse.

Pompey in 09/10, a 9 point deduction.

[MENTION=3711]Driver8[/MENTION] initial correct comment is getting shakier by the minute.

 

[Dick Head]

 

[ditchy]

We pay when we want, we pay when we want , NUFC we pay when we want !

 

[Easy 10]

When a club thats on the breadline and/or in financial strife defrauds HMRC (a Luton or a Chesterfield), then you can see a reason for it - not that it makes it in the slightest bit justifiable or excusable obviously.

When a club has its snout deeply buried in the Premier League trough though, and wallowing in the multi-multi-millions that it brings, then swerving the tax owed to the public purse is even more despicable. If West Ham and Newcastle are found guilty of that, I hope they both get royally clobbered with maHOOsive fines, sackings, and points docked.

Sadly though, we know how this plays out. When Spurs were done for dodgy finances they were originally fined £600k, docked 12 points and booted out of the FA Cup. Alan Sugar effectively purchased all those points back by paying an increased £1.5m fine instead, and they were reinstated in the FA Cup on appeal.

If you're a big rich club, this stuff tends to go away.