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[Gully]

Au contraire, grammar is there for a reason, if used correctly it reduces the risk of a statement being misunderstood. If I am classed as a pseudo-intellectual gimp for wanting to use my mother tongue in the proper manner then that is an insult I am willing to bear.

 

[SeagullEd]

Well I'm glad you have such broad shoulders!

The ironic thing is that not using perfect English is actually a highly effective literary device!

 

[dougdeep]

When you spend far too much time on here, like I do. You notice that a number of new posters start with pretty poor use of spelling and punctuation. However, after a few weeks it improves considerably. Therefore I suggest that NSC becomes part of the national curriculum.

 

[tedebear]

Well I'm glad you have such broad shoulders!

The ironic thing is that not using perfect English is actually a highly effective literary device!

Except you'll often not be taken seriously!

 

[tedebear]

Au contraire, grammar is there for a reason, if used correctly it reduces the risk of a statement being misunderstood. If I am classed as a pseudo-intellectual gimp for wanting to use my mother tongue in the proper manner then that is an insult I am willing to bear.

Bingo - agreed!

Interestingly enough - wouldn't it be considered to be more British to be able to use the language correctly? Or are you allowed to slip into Americanisms and street language and still be British?

 

[SeagullEd]

You most definetly will be taken seriously. To Kill a Mockingbird, we're studying it at the moment, is a fantastic piece of literature and much of it is grammatically incorrect but this is deliberate and serves a purpose.

 

[dougdeep]

You most definetly will be taken seriously. To Kill a Mockingbird, we're studying it at the moment, is a fantastic piece of literature and much of it is grammatically incorrect but this is deliberate and serves a purpose.

DEFINITELY.

 

[SeagullEd]

Cheers for that

Feeling content now? Good stuff.

 

[nail-Z]

Cheers for that

Feeling content now? Good stuff.

From the small number of posts I've read of yours, you appear to be a young intellectual, able to argue your point very well, without resorting to personal abuse and foul language.

You could make more of an effort to fit in!

 

[Giraffe]

My boss says sun instead of soon

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

The 'noo' pronunciation is something that came with accents around the Peterborough area.

Unfortunately the youth of today are like, kinda lazy an not respectin me words like

 

[tedebear]

You most definetly will be taken seriously. To Kill a Mockingbird, we're studying it at the moment, is a fantastic piece of literature and much of it is grammatically incorrect but this is deliberate and serves a purpose.

Of course it does, she wrote about a place and a time in her youth. Doesn't give you valid reason to drop everything you've learned about grammar though?

 

[NMH]

Yes - I do - its a rather large indicator of personal standards. Like wearing clean shoes and pressed shirts. If you can't speak properly - or haven't taken the time to learn - then you project a rather telling picture of yourself as soon as you open your mouth.

Innit!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

When in Wales, like myself, it seems that it is custom to pronounce Newport as Noo-port. Even the English people here seem to say it like that. I'm desperately trying to stop.

My memory may be failing me on this one, but my recollection is that Noo-port is heard more up the Valleys than in Newport itself.

And NOBODY in Newport knows how to pronounce "Casnewydd". It's most definitely NOT "Cass-nyoo-ith".

 

[The Large One]

So what's anal or obsessive about using English correctly?

 

[binky]

So what's anal or obsessive about using English correctly?

Nothing.
Language is the greatest tool that we have as the human race. It behooves us to use it correctly, or lose our ability to communicate effectively.

Some would say that this has already happened.

 

[Nemesis]

DEFINITELY.

 

[Nemesis]

But do you not find the protection of grammar quite anal, verging on obsessive. it is also so stereotypical and obvious. You find these pseudo-intellectual gimps who want something to be anal and obsessive about in order to look sophisticated and they all end up with grammar and the English language!

I find the protection of grammar anything but anal and obsessive. Your generation may be content with the text version of English but I prefer the bog standard, boring one myself. I think the rest of the world (most of whom communicate between themselves in English) appreciate a standardised, unchanging version of English. It makes it so much easier to understand each other. However, you lot go ahead and do it your way if you find it too difficult to conform-the rest of us will nurture it and use it as it is.

The thing I've found to be anal is your apparent desire to argue with almost everybody in an attempt to look like a sophisticated intellectual. You're not one of the players are you?

 

[SeagullEd]

I must admit I was waiting for that cheap shot. Do I talk in text-style? Is this in text language? No. But I find the protection and love of grammar very fake and irritating.

I apologise if it seems that way, I really do, but I am by no means argumentative. Sadly I doubt anyone on here knows me so can back me up! If that's what you think of me, so be it, but I am not trying to appear sophisticated or intellectual whatsoever. As the song goes, I am what I am.

 

[medicine man]

I am constantly pulled up on the fact I pronounce because, becuz. Anyone else? I am Sussex born and bred, and never really thought about it 'ti it was mentioned, so I'm guessing it must be sussex speak. Or, I just don't speak proper.l