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New strikers next season,



Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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:facepalm: So you are happy to go with the three strikers who have spectacular fallen short of the required standard? Or two of them, IF one leaves?

Thank The Lord the club ignore your letters about who they should sign.

You've got it in for Baldock. I like him. Not so sure why we signed him though, as out left clearly isn't his position, and he can't play up front on his own. I'm just hoping that he plays as the withdrawn forward in Hughton's 4-4-1-1.
 




Machiavelli

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I thought Vetokele looked class against us in the 2-2 home match; I'd have backed him to score 20+ after seeing him take those 2 chances. Only 11 goals this season doesn't necessarily mean he'll only score a similar amount next year, as Glenn Murray showed after his first season at Palace.

With you on Vetokele. I'd even go as far to say that he's the best I've seen at the Amex. It was his first season. I expect he'll get plenty more next. Charlton have done pretty well since we beat them and caused their manager to get sacked, in that dull game in January.
 




hans kraay fan club

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You've got it in for Baldock. I like him. Not so sure why we signed him though, as out left clearly isn't his position, and he can't play up front on his own. I'm just hoping that he plays as the withdrawn forward in Hughton's 4-4-1-1.

I haven't 'got it in for him' at all. You surely can't argue with the statement, that being signed as our main striking target, then going on to score ONE league goal all season, is 'falling spectacularly short of the required standard'?

He scored a lot of goals in League One, so he's clearly not terrible. The defending is genuinely pathetic in L1 though. Players are afforded time and space to finish, that they are simply never going to get a league higher. Unless he can compose himself in front of goal he is no use to us.

His very well taken goal against Arsenal shows what he COULD do.
 


hans kraay fan club

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We are missing PACE out wide, and POWER in the middle.

If we are randomly naming potential Prem loanees, I'd like to see Chuba Akpom. A couple of years ahead of someone like Solanke.
 




AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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You surely can't argue with the statement, that being signed as our main striking target, then going on to score ONE league goal all season, is 'falling spectacularly short of the required standard'?

Can I argue with it? He has scored THREE league goals all season. (Not that I argue with your general point).
 




Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
I haven't 'got it in for him' at all. You surely can't argue with the statement, that being signed as our main striking target, then going on to score ONE league goal all season, is 'falling spectacularly short of the required standard'?

He scored a lot of goals in League One, so he's clearly not terrible. The defending is genuinely pathetic in L1 though. Players are afforded time and space to finish, that they are simply never going to get a league higher. Unless he can compose himself in front of goal he is no use to us.

His very well taken goal against Arsenal shows what he COULD do.

Absolute nonsense piece of analysis. Baldock would score 30-40 goals next season if only we would play another (big) bloke up front with him.

Honestly, I thought BensGrandad had told you this already?
 




hans kraay fan club

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Absolute nonsense piece of analysis. Baldock would score 30-40 goals next season if only we would play another (big) bloke up front with him.

Honestly, I thought BensGrandad had told you this already?


I only post my ill thought out drivel on here, in the hope that BG will set me straight each time, and help me overcome my complete lack of football knowledge or insight.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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I only post my ill thought out drivel on here, in the hope that BG will set me straight each time, and help me overcome my complete lack of football knowledge or insight.

I am always glad to educate somebody. Baldock and CMS are both renowned goal scorers playing as the 2nd striker but we choose to play them as a lone striker or out wide.
 


Machiavelli

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I haven't 'got it in for him' at all. You surely can't argue with the statement, that being signed as our main striking target, then going on to score ONE league goal all season, is 'falling spectacularly short of the required standard'?

He scored a lot of goals in League One, so he's clearly not terrible. The defending is genuinely pathetic in L1 though. Players are afforded time and space to finish, that they are simply never going to get a league higher. Unless he can compose himself in front of goal he is no use to us.

His very well taken goal against Arsenal shows what he COULD do.

Alright. Perhaps I went a little too far, and yes, I agree about that Arsenal goal, which showed precisely the qualities we need: good movement, and good finishing. I seem to remember that you were questioning his movement earlier in the season; I maintain that it's still good, especially in and around the penalty area (which is the point at which COG becomes pants). But what will really matter is what his finishing is like.
 








DavidinSouthampton

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Burnley will have cash to spend and I can see them letting Ashley Barnes go. Barnes and Baldock up top would be good and one other striker.

Much though I like what you're suggesting, I don't think Barnes would come back. And I think he has done enough to show he can cut it at the highest level.
 




Arkwright

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Oct 26, 2010
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Much though I like what you're suggesting, I don't think Barnes would come back. And I think he has done enough to show he can cut it at the highest level.
Would depend on the Albion's ambition. Lots of names banded around are no better than we have, which is poor. If we are going to succeed we need to buy quality and not has-beens or average at best.
 






DavidinSouthampton

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He would be the 'big fish' in the pool rather than the other way round, so who knows.

I'm just aware that he (Barnes) left because he did not feel "wanted".

But maybe if we went after him, he would feel wanted. I would welcome him back with open arms, but would the previous Barnes baiters be so magnanimous?
 








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