New Poll. Europe: In or Out

[Deleted member 22389]

Look now Hollande wants to kick out right wing governments
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...icked-out-of-eu-risking-eurosceptic-backlash/

 

[Soulman]

Bureaucrats in Brussels are holding back key legislation that would impact the United Kingdom and other member states for fear of impacting the British referendum on membership of the European Union, it has been claimed today.

Writing in Politico.eu, Brussels correspondent Tara Palmeri details how post-Brexit, there may well be a deluge of onerous legislation dumped on EU member states, fuelling fears of a “Brussels Time Bomb”.

Officials have reportedly said that key EU initiatives which may be “controversial” have been shelved to assist Prime Minister David Cameron’s campaign to keep Britain in the European Union. The legislation includes a €20bn increase in the EU’s budget, new rules on the freedom of movement, and indeed the accession to the European Convention on Human Rights – a deeply unpopular, sovereignty-stripping treaty.

“There’s a kind of a deflection of attention to some issues,” Mercedes Bresso, an Italian MEP from the Socialists and Democrats group said. She added the referendum was causing a “delay in some debates,” admitting: “Now is not the moment to create more problems.”

“These proposals can be discussed after June without creating too many difficulties,” a French official said, adding: “In fact, it would be more problematic if we had to negotiate under the pressure of the U.K.. So, in a way, it protects the other member states as well.”

“Everyone knows this is not a good time because of the problems with the U.K.,” said Pedro López de Pablo, spokesman for the European People’s Party group in the Parliament. “The Commission has been very cautious on all of these things. Nowadays we’re in a public opinion environment that everyone attacks the European Union.”

And perhaps the most revealing comment came from Polish MEP Jan Olbrycht who is also a member of the EU’s budgets committee. He said: “They don’t want to open the pandora’s box before the referendum”.

But some MEPs on the budgets committee say the delay will make their oversight role more difficult by not giving them enough time to consider proposed revisions submitted by the Commission. They say they need to see the proposal now — and not in September after the referendum dust has settled and the summer break is over.

“They don’t want to open the pandora’s box before the referendum,” said Polish MEP Jan Olbrycht, a member of the budgets committee. “We want the Commission to make their proposals as soon as possible. We need a serious debate about the review and the revision. There’s no time to waste.”

A Commission spokesman told Politico the EU was currently in a “period of reflection” over how to proceed with the accession to the European Convention of Human Rights, which could exercise supreme authority over Britain’s judicial system.

A spokesman for the Leave.EU campaign told Breitbart London: “It has become clear that Britain can expect a deluge of onerous Brussels regulation if we vote to stay in the European Union. This Brussels time bomb can only be avoided by voting to leave on June 23rd. The fact that the European Union is trying to hide this from the British electorate is just another sign of the kind of underhand tactics they employ to keep the big lobbyists and corporate interests in Brussels happy”.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-key-legislation-for-fear-of-fuelling-brexit/

 

[Hampster Gull]

Keep spinning.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35658731

Exactly. 4% down on the year high. Ans of course immigration is how we will be able ot afford the bells and whistlea that our aging population demands. We are a mini USA

 

[drew]

The in plan is just ridiculous and boring....Big corporate company's shareholders shitting it as they fear their shares will plummet lol
There's a lot more to this referendum than money and you can be sure all these companies couldn't give a fack about grass roots Britain.

What on earth makes you think it won't be big corporate business interests that control the situation either way!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Immigration is fallng, whats there to worry about.

Where
regards
DR

 

[Hampster Gull]

Where
regards
DR

Keep up

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Keep up

I'm not intetested in stupid percentages , the fact that we're still talking about 300,000plus is a joke , you're living in la la land FACT
regards
DR

 

[Hampster Gull]

I'm not intetested in stupid percentages , the fact that we're still talking about 300,000plus is a joke , you're living in la la land FACT
regards
DR

What age are you retiring?

 

[GT49er]

What on earth makes you think it won't be big corporate business interests that control the situation either way!

That is, of course, a major cause of the problem - and Brussels knows it and panders to them at every opportunity. Just at this moment, though, big business do not have control of the electorate, who might just vote against the perceived interests of big business. Probably the scare stories will work, and the turkeys will vote for Christmas in Europe in the belief that it won't happen, but right now big business are seriously worried they might not get their own way for once.

 

[pastafarian]

You know that passport thing you show when you enter the country. Thats how we control our borders

Border Guard passport please
Non EU citizen here you go
Border Guard whats the purpose of your visit?
Non EU citizen im here to work,here is my work permit
Border Guard Ok,everything seems to be in order,in you come old chap

Border Guard passport please
EU citizen here you go
Border Guard ok,everything seems to be in order,in you come old chap


Is that the control of people coming from the EU that you are talking about? very in depth isnt it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What age are you retiring?

His brain retired years ago

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Border Guard passport please
Non EU citizen here you go
Border Guard whats the purpose of your visit?
Non EU citizen im here to work,here is my work permit
Border Guard Ok,everything seems to be in order,in you come old chap

Border Guard passport please
EU citizen here you go
Border Guard ok,everything seems to be in order,in you come old chap


Is that the control of people coming from the EU that you are talking about? very in depth isnt it.

It's bloody dreadful isn't it, this is not the way we should be controlling our borders. What it should be is

Border Guard passport please

EU citizen here you go

Border Guard
What skills & qualifications do you have?
Do you have a job lined up?
What job are you doing and how much does it pay?
Where are you going to stay?
Are the services under pressure in the area you are moving too?
What is your medical history?
Do you have a criminal record?

It's not that hard is it, but we can't because of stupid EU rules, apparently this would be discriminatory.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Modern day British people are weak and scared of change and more importantly easily manipulated by the media.

What a load of nonsense.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

What a load of nonsense.

you've spewed bucket loads already , you got some nerve
regards
DR

 

[Lord Bracknell]

People seem to be ignoring the most important feature of this referendum.

A vote for IN means "I want George Osborne to be the next prime minister" A vote for NO means "I want Boris Johnson to be the next prime minister".

The entire campaign so far has been focused on that one issue. The UK's place in Europe hasn't had a look in.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

People seem to be ignoring the most important feature of this referendum.

A vote for IN means "I want George Osborne to be the next prime minister" A vote for NO means "I want Boris Johnson to be the next prime minister".

The entire campaign so far has been focused on that one issue. The UK's place in Europe hasn't had a look in.

I know Firle is wrapped up in cotton wool but that statement is from another planet, did you watch question time last night
regards
DR

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Well that's clever. We don't know what will happen so bugger it, let's take a roll of the dice and have a gamble. A gamble that, if it doesn't come off, could result in the average man (or woman) in the street losing their job, possibly their home as well and who knows what else. But hey ho, we're an adventurous nation so lets give it a go.

I really hope that the out campaign have a better plan than that. (by the way, I'm sure they do).

Project Fear is alive and well...if it doesn't come off,,COULD result in the average man (or woman) in the street losing their job,POSSIBLY their home as well.
Hey Captain Drake...don't go near the Spanish fleet it could be dangerous...
What we do know is that we won't have unelected politicians and judges laying down the law to us...we will not be paying Europe £350M a week for a corrupt system of government...that money could buy us a new hospital or rail and road links,schools.
I cannot see Germany putting tax duties on our imports...we import more from them than we export...most of the people who want us to stay in have a vested interest in Europe and most wanted us to join the Euro...look how great that has been.
If you don't try you don't succeed. I suspect the vote will be close and if Out wins then Europe will come back with a revised deal.

 

[sir albion]

What a load of nonsense.

Certainly not....Many people can't think for themselves these days and many examples are out there in general day today life.
Wether it's the hideous xfactor dullards,food or fuel shortages to black bloody Friday to a new phone coming out.The British public will panick over anything trivial that's implanted into their head by the media and common sense goes out the window.

 

[pb21]

A gif made by some presumably weak, easily manipulated and scared losers, reasonably amusing too!

https://giant.gfycat.com/SilkyBoringHorsechestnutleafminer.gif

 

[drew]

Project Fear is alive and well...if it doesn't come off,,COULD result in the average man (or woman) in the street losing their job,POSSIBLY their home as well.
Hey Captain Drake...don't go near the Spanish fleet it could be dangerous...
What we do know is that we won't have unelected politicians and judges laying down the law to us...we will not be paying Europe £350M a week for a corrupt system of government...that money could buy us a new hospital or rail and road links,schools.
I cannot see Germany putting tax duties on our imports...we import more from them than we export...most of the people who want us to stay in have a vested interest in Europe and most wanted us to join the Euro...look how great that has been.
If you don't try you don't succeed. I suspect the vote will be close and if Out wins then Europe will come back with a revised deal.

You do post garbage but then having seen many of your posts before I'm not surprised. Our net contribution for 2015 was less than half the figure you quote.

As for your ref to Drake, don't you think he had a good idea of the problem before him and that he had a strategy!!!

What has a revised offer got to do with it? If we vote out then the process to come out begins. There won't be another referendum. It's not a case of calling each others bluff.