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New drinking guidelines
- Thread starter Bozza
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Goldstone_groover
Banned
3 units max? Lol. I'd proably have ten units whilst I decide whether I am going to have a drink or not.
A single craft beer can send you well north of this.
It was meant to be a light-hearted take on the jokey comment about equality for males and females as far as drinking guidelines were concerned!
That is all!
It obviously failed.
I've never had alcohol, but it doesn't mean that I judge those that do. Certainly don't expect reverence for it either. My wife drinks, I've never suggested she gives it up?
Does not drinking automatically make someone boring? Is it any different from choosing to be a vegetarian?
Out of interest why don't you drink? Genuinely interested. If it's personal and you don't want to discuss please just ignore.
Gregory2Smith1
J'les aurai!
I like a drink and I'm very boring, especially if I'm drinking and banging on about craft beers.
Wrong-Direction
Well-known member
- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,638
There's nothing worse then a non drinking veggie
AlastairWatts
Active member
The health police are coming to a pub near you. And quite possibly a supermarket too. First off it was tobacco, now it's alcohol and next it'll be sugar and/or fatty foods. If you've tried to get a doctor's appointment recently, or been referred to a hospital, you'll have a good idea of just how long you have to wait. Yet these people continue to preach different codes that attempt to remove some of the things that make life bearable. I run a pub and I notice that with a very few exceptions our customers are careful about their alcohol consumption. Gone are the days when four or five pints a night on the way home was a general rule. What a pity that the money used to create these rules isn't used in other areas of health care. And, in any case, if they made more effort to deal with the illegal drug issue they'd soon find plenty to occupy themselves...
Chicken Runner61
We stand where we want!
- May 20, 2007
- 4,609
I was going to try this no drink thingy for a few days starting tonight, but she's put Take me out on so I'm going to drink my way through it.
They don't tell you how to cope with stuff like this in these guidelines do they?
They don't tell you how to cope with stuff like this in these guidelines do they?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
in all seriousness, why bother with advice thats simply not going to be followed? 3 units is less than two pints, and while it might be a good idea to not drink 3 pints every single night, drinking 3-4 a couple of times a week would be considered moderate amount by most people. so people will shrug their shoulders, laugh at the advice and ignore it. waste of everyones time, and potentially counter productive as people wilfully ignore preachy limits, when the dont drink every night is the practical part of the message.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
Yes, just seen that The Speaker has opposed release of information regarding the several subsidised bars in The Commons.
Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
I am of the strong belief life is just random chaos seen loads of cleaner living people than me drop by now to really take this too seriously tbh
Making the recommendation for women and me the same is no different from making the recommended dose of drugs the same for women and men (which it is, by and large). People are too lazy to look up an exact dose table, and in any case, the response is proportional to the log dose so a 100% difference in weight equaltes only to a 0.3 fold difference in dose.
It is only advice, anyway.
It is only advice, anyway.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,264
The science hasn't changed, it's just the state thinks we should go easier. I don't see the stresses of life getting any easier so after 7 years of austerity what's the state's advice on coping if we can't have a drink?
It was a wee bit tongue in cheek, although strangely I never considered teetotallers position on this.
My general point is that there seems very little science behind this other than an effort to reduce consumption, why have two days free and not say 1 day or 3 consecutive it seems to offer little to those of us that might be willing to listen ?
If we move away from the extremes of consumption then most quite happily and healthily partake in a drink or two, sometimes abstaining, sometimes a glass of wine with food and rarely shit-faced and falling over.
The problem but quite logical outcome are that guidelines soon become benchmarks which in turn become a position to judge and perhaps then penalise be it taxation, health, services etc.
I like science lead information, not state driven interference.
Agree with you entirely. There has been a huge amount of academic research into the impact of alcohol consumption into health though, and this is then summarised when academics attend meetings with government officials. That evidence is then
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/236476.php
If you take a look at Google Scholar https://scholar.google.co.uk/ there are many studies into the impact of alcohol on liver and coronary issues.
Sally Davies, who is associated with the comments you refer to, is a doctor rather than a politician. I think having a chief medical officer who is independent of the pettiness of party politics is a positive rather than a negative.
- Jul 7, 2003
- 47,630
The ageing process was enough to force me to watch my intake.
Firstly because it seems to take a lot less alcohol to make me feel pissed these days. And secondly because hangovers are absolute horrors now (thirties...just about), compared to when I was in my twenties. I've noticed that if I have even a couple of large glasses of wine, I'm aware of it the next day, not necessarily hungover, but just feeling it a bit. If I've had a few, I'll go to bed and then, without fail, wake up at about 4am, too hot and feeling like crap.
I really can't be arsed with that on a regular basis. There are still moments of weakness, generally centred around Albion games, but I try and force myself to drink a ton of water or milk when I get in afterwards, to at least try and nullify the effects.
Also: I can vouch for El Pres and confirm that his non-drinking status does not in any way affect his position as thoroughly good & entertaining company
Firstly because it seems to take a lot less alcohol to make me feel pissed these days. And secondly because hangovers are absolute horrors now (thirties...just about), compared to when I was in my twenties. I've noticed that if I have even a couple of large glasses of wine, I'm aware of it the next day, not necessarily hungover, but just feeling it a bit. If I've had a few, I'll go to bed and then, without fail, wake up at about 4am, too hot and feeling like crap.
I really can't be arsed with that on a regular basis. There are still moments of weakness, generally centred around Albion games, but I try and force myself to drink a ton of water or milk when I get in afterwards, to at least try and nullify the effects.
Also: I can vouch for El Pres and confirm that his non-drinking status does not in any way affect his position as thoroughly good & entertaining company
- Jul 7, 2003
- 47,630
Alcohol may outwardly affect different people in different ways, so for example a 5'3" female might react differently to Uncle Spielberg's aforementioned 6'0", 16 stone bloke. She might appear to be more pissed at any given time (or might not), because that's the effect of alcohol on the brain.
But your size and gender has little or no effect on the way in which your liver processes the alcohol and gets rid of it, and ultimately, it's the liver that's going to suffer as a result of persistent hard drinking, so perhaps that's behind the theory being put forward at the top of this thread? It matters not whether you weigh 20 stone or 8 stone: your liver can only work the alcohol out of your system at the same rate, roughly one unit per hour. That remains the same even if you eat a full meal with it or drink a pint of water when you get home from a night out (hence you might feel better in the morning but still be way over the drink-drive limit)
Thus I guess if you drink six pints, it's going to have the same impact on your liver if you're Stephen or Stacey (or a bit of both).