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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
72,352
Much as you have to admire any new enterprise starting up in these grim financial times, you sometimes have to question how much homework they did before taking the plunge.

We've got a new wine bar, The Purple Grape ('Boutique Wines are Our Passion') opened up in Preston Park, half way up Preston Drove, on the previous premises of the, um, eccentric, beardy locksmith. I seriously wish them nothing but good things, but sadly can't see them lasting six months. General consensus among the locals, including most of the shopkeepers, is that they didn't do their homework before setting up shop. There's a well-stocked offie a hundred yards up the road that can get you anything you ask for, there's a pub with pretentions fifty yards down the road. They've put tables outside - about ten foot from the cluster of 'Team Waste' bins. Who would want to sit out there even in Summer, let alone the soon-come six month Winter? Can't see it ending in anything but tears.

Got me thinking about other doomed to failure businesses. The perennial one that leaps to mind is the lock-up restaurant under the Preston Viaduct arches. Changes hands every six months regular as clockwork and never ever has any customers, whether its a Mexican, an Indian or an Italian, or even all three. But still people take up the lease. Gotta say my own personal favourite was the 'Combined Tanning Salon And art Gallery' at the bottom of London Road. Finest crapper the winos in that street ever had. Lasted three months.

My advice to prospective shop-openers would be to DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
Ask around, look around, don't just buy something sight unseen cos it looks like a bargain. Else set up a shop-fitting business. Plenty of opportunities in that direction ripping out the remnants of somebody's failed dream and installing the fixtures and fittings for somebody else's.

End of random rant.
 




keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
Isn't there another posh wine shop which you can sit outside about 400m away as well on Fiveways?
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
I was going to suggest you stopped watching Dragons Den! But that's a quality rant with a good example.
 


terryberry1

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2011
5,023
Patcham
Have you been along preston road lately? Every other shop seems to be a Pizza shop. Each shop has an employee walk around Brighton holding buy 1 get 1 free advertising boards. Dominoes and Papa Johns are the worst for doing it. Surley the lesser known pizza shops in the area wont be there much longer
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
72,352
Have you been along preston road lately? Every other shop seems to be a Pizza shop. Each shop has an employee walk around Brighton holding buy 1 get 1 free advertising boards. Dominoes and Papa Johns are the worst for doing it. Surley the lesser known pizza shops in the area wont be there much longer

Good spot! New independent pizza shops still keep opening around there though. Very odd.
 








sam86

Moderator
Feb 18, 2009
9,947
I work down Boundary Road, Portslade, and the amount of new businesses that open with the same line of products as a shop 2 minutes down the road is unbelievable. They too only last a few months. Always in the same premises as well. A grocer opened opposite the grocer that has been down this street for many years a few months back. I mean, seriously?! Especially with Tescos also just up the road. They didn't last long.

Someone has just opened up a retro pick 'n mix style sweet shop though, and seem to be doing very well. Hope it continues and isn't just people going in to check it out on a one off.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,019
money laudering front. i see a number of takeaways opening and thats my only conclusion why they'd be opening while existing establishments are quieter than before.
 


Digweeds Trousers

New member
May 17, 2004
2,079
Tunbridge Wells
Great example I saw was in Crowborough - a rent a movie and pizza join that offered deals on customers coming in, renting movies and takiong a pizza away. They dont deliver!

400 yards away from Dominos people simply call for a delivery and either download films from Lovefilm or other similar platforms. Astonishingly its still there some 2 years on but on the occasions I drive through its never got any customers.
 


Josky

New member
Jul 18, 2003
429
Brighton
Have got to say that's a little harsh on The Purple Grape, THPP. Preston Park Wines are a good little off licence but the wines sold in The Purple Grape are closer to being higher end wines; PPW sell more at the value end, McGuigan, Penfolds, etc so there is a major difference between the two. If you're not into wine you may not see it, but if you are the distinction between the two is clear.

As for saying that The Park View is competition - only if you fancy waiting 20 minutes to get served even if you are the only person at the bar.

We've just had a baby. My wife finds it much nicer sitting at The Purple Grape, especially with a push chair, than having to dodge the parade of smokers at The Park View before being told none of the tables are available because they've all been reserved for diners coming in in another six hours. There is nowhere close in that area to do such a thing apart from the Purple Grape, so I'd say it was quite a good idea.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
72,352
Someone has just opened up a retro pick 'n mix style sweet shop though, and seem to be doing very well. Hope it continues and isn't just people going in to check it out on a one off.

One of those just closed down in North Street, by the entrance to The Lanes. Three months max.
 








Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
72,352
Have got to say that's a little harsh on The Purple Grape, THPP. Preston Park Wines are a good little off licence but the wines sold in The Purple Grape are closer to being higher end wines; PPW sell more at the value end, McGuigan, Penfolds, etc so there is a major difference between the two. If you're not into wine you may not see it, but if you are the distinction between the two is clear.

As for saying that The Park View is competition - only if you fancy waiting 20 minutes to get served even if you are the only person at the bar.

We've just had a baby. My wife finds it much nicer sitting at The Purple Grape, especially with a push chair, than having to dodge the parade of smokers at The Park View before being told none of the tables are available because they've all been reserved for diners coming in in another six hours. There is nowhere close in that area to do such a thing apart from the Purple Grape, so I'd say it was quite a good idea.

As I say, I wish them nothing but well. Just that every time I go past there its completely deserted. Hopefully their wine tasting evening and other promotions will achieve the right results. But IMHO they face an uphill struggle.

Know exactly what you mean about the Park View BTW. It's my nearest boozer by far but I refuse to go in there due to the laughably rubbish time it takes to get served. Only slower bar service I'm aware of is at the Amex :lol:
 


Josky

New member
Jul 18, 2003
429
Brighton
Great example I saw was in Crowborough - a rent a movie and pizza join that offered deals on customers coming in, renting movies and takiong a pizza away. They dont deliver!

400 yards away from Dominos people simply call for a delivery and either download films from Lovefilm or other similar platforms. Astonishingly its still there some 2 years on but on the occasions I drive through its never got any customers.

The prime position for a video rental store is always next to a take-away or pizza place, if one closes down the other often follows - it may seem old fashioned but that's still the way many people enjoy their Friday/Saturday nights.

This doesn't apply to Blockbuster, of course, which is a debt-ridden behemoth.
 


Josky

New member
Jul 18, 2003
429
Brighton
Know exactly what you mean about the Park View BTW. It's my nearest boozer by far but I refuse to go in there due to the laughably rubbish time it takes to get served. Only slower bar service I'm aware of is at the Amex :lol:

It's funny you say that because last time my dad and I were at the football, I actually said 'this is worse than The Park View'!
 


Braders

Abi Fletchers Gimpboy
Jul 15, 2003
29,224
Brighton, United Kingdom
A silly one down Carden Avenue - a horse riding shop!! , replaced now with an antique shop
 




I work down Boundary Road, Portslade, and the amount of new businesses that open with the same line of products as a shop 2 minutes down the road is unbelievable. They too only last a few months. Always in the same premises as well. A grocer opened opposite the grocer that has been down this street for many years a few months back. I mean, seriously?! Especially with Tescos also just up the road. They didn't last long.

Someone has just opened up a retro pick 'n mix style sweet shop though, and seem to be doing very well. Hope it continues and isn't just people going in to check it out on a one off.

One of those retro sweet shops opened in Burgess Hill about 18 months ago:drool:, people were queuing outside for the first month, It's not there anymore.:down:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
72,352
It's funny you say that because last time my dad and I were at the football, I actually said 'this is worse than The Park View'!

The one way of getting even with the Park View, instead of getting mad, is to take one of the little 'We welcome your comments' cards and emailing their head office. I did that once, and spent the next month ignoring ever-more-desperate messages left for me on my phone by the manager, asking me to contact him to discuss the matter. Eventually he must have tracked down my email address because he sent me a message offering me a free meal. I told him I didn't want one, i just wanted the bar service to improve and would be boycotting his pub until it did. Never heard from him again.
 


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