Never a red + we had boro bricking it

[warmleyseagull]

It's not. A straight red can be a one, two or three match ban, depending on the offence. It's violent conduct/serious foul play that is a three game ban, not the red card itself.

Two yellow card worthy offences in one match (which be a reckless challenge, taking your shirt off celebrating a goal, time wasting) = one match ban,
A single incident of serious foul play/violent conduct = three match ban

It doesn't seem so disproportionate, does it?

Correct me if wrong but I would think most straight reds are for violent conduct/serious foul play and most yellows are for unsporting behaviour. In practice (supported in this case by fact that Dean initially brandished a yellow) it is a fine margin between what is judged to be unsporting behaviour and therefore yellow with no ban (unless 2nd offence) and serious foul play/violent conduct, which is three. That is the reason I think the punishment is disproportionate.

 

[Captain Sensible]

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Watching again, it looks even more of a nothing foul.

Ramirez clearly has NO SHINPADS ON.

 

[southstandandy]

Of course it was a poor decision by both player to put himself in that position and the ref for making the wrong decision in deeming it a red. What bothered me though was only 1 shot on target in the game. Granted it was never going to be easy and goals were likely to be at a premium, but for a game we had to win the number of goal attempts was hugely disappointing.

 

[nwgull]

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****ing hell. That's the first time I've seen it apart from live - now I'm properly pissed off! What was Holloway saying about it in the studio?

 

[BN9 BHA]

Agreed ref was decent

Have I drunk so much that I have missed something here? WTF ?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

It is a bit strange that an injury so painful that it requires oxygen and a stretcher can clear up so quickly.

He was sitting up after the Stephens challenge, looking as nonchalant as anything, then he rolls down his sock and suddenly it's strap him onto a stretcher and bring out the oxygen or he isn't going to make it out alive. All very strange.

 

[Grassman]

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Stills don't lie, apparently.

They don't, but if he was wearing a proper shinpad.....

 

[warmleyseagull]

Have you ever played football? Anyone who thinks a player going for the ball in mid air like that can do so in anyway other than Stephens did is mental

Never even a foul let alone a red

Yes, I have and I agree Stephens was unlucky - judged on the result rather than the 'offence'; to a degree though the answer is in your reply -'going for the ball in mid air like that'. Ask yourself this: if that had been Barton on Kayal, can you honestly say that ref should have played on?

I am not supporting the ref, I think he got it wrong certainly to brandish red in the circumstances (and if he had brandished a yellow we wouldn't even be discussing whether it was was a foul because it would not have been relevant). I just regret that Stephens' challenge made a decision necessary.

 

[clippedgull]

****ing hell. That's the first time I've seen it apart from live - now I'm properly pissed off! What was Holloway saying about it in the studio?

That Stephens got the ball first and it was an accidental coming together. He didn't think it warranted a red.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Sending off for knocking card out of hand?

Booking at least.
Remember Gazza? Ref dropped yellow card Gazza waved it at Ref, got booked.

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

When Dean spoke to both players a bit earlier it was only to Ramirez as Dean was warning him about diving all the time as you see him point to three different places on the pitch where he had done this

 

[SUIYHP]

AND the dickhead was breaking up our momentum the entire game after that by giving a free kick every ****ing time a Boro player fell over in their half, he had a proper chip on his shoulder for us after we contested the red card.

The injury did look bad though, and the spineless worm was probably scared that he'd get murdered by Boro fans if he'd only given a yellow. I seriously don't think Stephens should be kept off for that though, Boro fans wouldn't agree obviously

 

[lawros left foot]

Stills don't lie. Or so you all said.

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Thug, get him sent to Burnley on the cheap.

As an aside, Mattclaret, Joey Barton has been voted by public poll to be re-named,Stampy McStampface

 

[Acker79]

Correct me if wrong but I would think most straight reds are for violent conduct/serious foul play and most yellows are for unsporting behaviour. In practice (supported in this case by fact that Dean initially brandished a yellow) it is a fine margin between what is judged to be unsporting behaviour and therefore yellow with no ban (unless 2nd offence) and serious foul play/violent conduct, which is three. That is the reason I think the punishment is disproportionate.

Actually, I think most straight red cards are for 'denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity' (usually via a 'not serious foul play' foul - like most red cards related to penalties or free kicks around the area) which is a one match ban.

 

[Burnleylad]

As a neutral, no way was it a sending off, probably cost you the game. Won the ball fair and square, no malicious intent whatsoever.

Absolutely disgusted with Ramirez kocking the card out of the refs hand, should have been sent off himself. Admittedly it was a bad injury but down to bladed studs and no shin pads, sending someone off just because a player is badly injured shows poor judgement and a pathetically weak referee.

 

[sten]

As a neutral, no way was it a sending off, probably cost you the game. Won the ball fair and square, no malicious intent whatsoever.

Absolutely disgusted with Ramirez kocking the card out of the refs hand, should have been sent off himself. Admittedly it was a bad injury but down to bladed studs and no shin pads, sending someone off just because a player is badly injured shows poor judgement and a pathetically weak referee.

Thank u

 

[Hampster Gull]

As a neutral, no way was it a sending off, probably cost you the game. Won the ball fair and square, no malicious intent whatsoever.

Absolutely disgusted with Ramirez kocking the card out of the refs hand, should have been sent off himself. Admittedly it was a bad injury but down to bladed studs and no shin pads, sending someone off just because a player is badly injured shows poor judgement and a pathetically weak referee.

Thanks. Thats where i had got to as well

 

[nwgull]

As a neutral, no way was it a sending off, probably cost you the game. Won the ball fair and square, no malicious intent whatsoever.

Absolutely disgusted with Ramirez kocking the card out of the refs hand, should have been sent off himself. Admittedly it was a bad injury but down to bladed studs and no shin pads, sending someone off just because a player is badly injured shows poor judgement and a pathetically weak referee.

Cheers, but now go and get yourself a life. It's Saturday and your team has won the league. You can't spend all evening posting on another teams forum (in between *****); we're not your real friends.

 

[sparkie]

As a neutral, no way was it a sending off, probably cost you the game. Won the ball fair and square, no malicious intent whatsoever.

Absolutely disgusted with Ramirez kocking the card out of the refs hand, should have been sent off himself. Admittedly it was a bad injury but down to bladed studs and no shin pads, sending someone off just because a player is badly injured shows poor judgement and a pathetically weak referee.

Exactly what I feel although clearly it's more personal to us. Thanks for your post.

 

[Fran Hagarty]

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