[Albion] Neal Maupay...SIGNED FOR EVERTON.

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Maupay could work quite well with Mitrovic at Fulham - deal seems close.

Shame its not Mitrovic moving in the opposite direction

 

[Justice]

His goals per minute improved from 20/21 to 21/22.
He scored 8 goals from an Xg of 8.55 last season, in the previous season 8 goals from 13.55 Xg.

He isn't going backwards. He wants to play first team football and won't sign a new contract at a club where he's not going to be guaranteed a good percentage of starts. His 26 EPL goals in his three seasons is a record that puts him somewhere near the top twenty goalscorers in the division during that period. That's no mean feat if it were his only attribute. However, he has also developed a reputation as an incredibly hard working and tireless irritant to opposition defenders. He'd be an asset to any club outside of the big six, and at present, at least one of them in it. The fact that he looks like leaving is all to do with his contract situation, value and desire to play as many games as possible and nothing to do with him as a player. If he was happy to sign a new contract and be back up, I suspect that Graham Potter would be very happy to have him as an option. Unfortunately, he isn't and so we look to get some money for him. It turns out that, in the last year of his contract, it looks like we'll, at worst, be making a small profit on what we paid Brentford for him. That wouldn't happen had he gone backwards under Potter.

I think you are being kind, if he could score pens added with the amount of chances he had he should be on 15 a season. If GP had faith in him he would be offered a new contract, he isn’t.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I think you are being kind, if he could score pens added with the amount of chances he had he should be on 15 a season. If GP had faith in him he would be offered a new contract, he isn’t.

What makes you sure Maupay has not been offered a new contract? Highly unlikely scenario, I'd suggest.

 

[Stato]

I think you are being kind, if he could score pens added with the amount of chances he had he should be on 15 a season. If GP had faith in him he would be offered a new contract, he isn’t.

Not kind, realistic. Virtually every team in the top league employs strikers who are good at some things, but have some failings. Only the big monied teams can afford to employ the Kanes, Salahs and Haalands of this world. Under that lot, there is small number of very good goalscorers; Vardy, Ings, Antonio, Wilson, possibly Toney. The next row down is strikers who score chances, but also miss them. This is not a sleight. The old cliche that scoring is the hardest part is true. Maupay is amongst that rank of attacking player, and people like him, Watkins, Adams, Rodrigo, Daka, Zaha are going to be players of worth to any middling team in the league, despite the fans' frustration when they don't always score.

 

[chaileyjem]

I think you are being kind, if he could score pens added with the amount of chances he had he should be on 15 a season. If GP had faith in him he would be offered a new contract, he isn’t.

Scoring goals in the PL is not easy. But Maupay missed 1 penalty in the PL last season, unless you're saying he should have been on the pitch for every pen we had last year, taken all of them and scored them. Yes then. In which case he'd be on 15. His chances are in line with his XG .
As for faith in him then perhaps he doesn't want to be part of a squad where he's not the first choice striker. Does that mean GP doesn't have faith in him or he's going backwards ? Not in my view. And how do you know anyway ?

 

[The Wizard]

Scoring goals in the PL is not easy. But Maupay missed 1 penalty in the PL last season, unless you're saying he should have been on the pitch for every pen we had last year, taken all of them and scored them. Yes then. In which case he'd be on 15. His chances are in line with his XG .
As for faith in him then perhaps he doesn't want to be part of a squad where he's not the first choice striker. Does that mean GP doesn't have faith in him or he's going backwards ? Not in my view. And how do you know anyway ?

Honestly… this whole XG nonsense, I couldn’t care what the stats say, Maupay misses a lot of chances, we’ve all seen it with our own eyes, he doesn’t have the composure to be a lethal striker at this level.

 

[chaileyjem]

Honestly… this whole XG nonsense, I couldn’t care what the stats say, Maupay misses a lot of chances, we’ve all seen it with our own eyes, he doesn’t have the composure to be a lethal striker at this level.

All strikers miss chances . I've seen Erling Haaland miss lots of chances in his first 2 games for City "with my own eyes". So it is a case of XG or how many and stats when trying to make comparisons and judgement. Saying a striker misses chances is a given.
As for Maupay , he's a young very experienced PL striker. 100 games in the PL. He's not Harry Kane but then again he's not Jurgen Locadia and clearly other clubs , for different reasons are interested in paying a fair bit of money for him and think he can add value to their squads. So saying he's going "backwards" or that he's not "lethal" or saying that Potter has "lost faith" (there are multiple reasons for his exit and "faith" in him is probably not it) is not helpful imo.

 

[Machiavelli]

Honestly… this whole XG nonsense, I couldn’t care what the stats say, Maupay misses a lot of chances, we’ve all seen it with our own eyes, he doesn’t have the composure to be a lethal striker at this level.

I'll trust xG over your eyes any day, which is the reason why it's given more credence than your eyes. And you're one of the more interesting posters on our players on this board

 

[The Wizard]

I'll trust xG over your eyes any day, which is the reason why it's given more credence than your eyes. And you're one of the more interesting posters on our players on this board

It’s not just my eyes though is it? Clearly it’s also GP’s opinion, hence he has preferred Welbeck over Neal for a while. XG may have some credence, but against us who watch Maupay week in week out and have seen the chances he misses it’s nonsense IMO, the thing is he tends to score goals you wouldn’t expect so that probably skews the XG (West Ham away, Palace etc)

Fwiw, I like Maupay he’s a decent enough player but he’s not good enough for us if we want to sustain ourselves in a top ten position, not as a starter anyway.

 

[Russconha]

Mau money mau problems.

 

[Machiavelli]

It’s not just my eyes though is it? Clearly it’s also GP’s opinion, hence he has preferred Welbeck over Neal for a while. XG may have some credence, but against us who watch Maupay week in week out and have seen the chances he misses it’s nonsense IMO, the thing is he tends to score goals you wouldn’t expect so that probably skews the XG (West Ham away, Palace etc)

Fwiw, I like Maupay he’s a decent enough player but he’s not good enough for us if we want to sustain ourselves in a top ten position, not as a starter anyway.

No, you claimed that your eyes were better than xG. I claimed that xG is better than your eyes. The Welbeck/GP issue has diddly squat to do with this.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

It’s not just my eyes though is it? Clearly it’s also GP’s opinion, hence he has preferred Welbeck over Neal for a while.

Potter's current preference for Wellbeck over Maupay has nothing at all to do with Maupay's conversion rate.

Wellbeck misses just as many good chances as Maupay does. (Even in the Leeds home game, that people like to use as an example of NM missing an 'open goal', DW missed a header in the final minutes that was barely any tougher).

Wellbeck plays because his all-round game better suits the one-up-top system Potter is currently using.

 

[Justice]

Potter's current preference for Wellbeck over Maupay has nothing at all to do with Maupay's conversion rate.

Wellbeck misses just as many good chances as Maupay does. (Even in the Leeds home game, that people like to use as an example of NM missing an 'open goal', DW missed a header in the final minutes that was barely any tougher).

Wellbeck plays because his all-round game better suits the one-up-top system Potter is currently using.

Which does make the signing of Undav a bit of a mystery.

 

[Justice]

I'll trust xG over your eyes any day, which is the reason why it's given more credence than your eyes. And you're one of the more interesting posters on our players on this board

Maupay said himself XG in his words is bullshit.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Which does make the signing of Undav a bit of a mystery.

Only if you think Graham Potter is going to go against everything he's done in the past 8 years, and suddenly start sticking rigidly to one formation.

 

[Bodian]

Maupay said himself XG in his words is bullshit.

More probably "XG est une connerie"

 

[Super Steve Earle]

More probably "XG est une connerie"

Perhaps Maupay should wear the 007 shirt?

 

[beardy gull]

The Athletic are now reporting that Fulham are in advanced talks to sign him in a £15m deal. Wonder how Bernd Leno feels about that?

 

[Icy Gull]

Can’t see the full article in the Argus but Potter headline says that he doesn’t think Maupay is desperate to leave.

Well I’m happy about that

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Can’t see the full article in the Argus but Potter headline says that he doesn’t think Maupay is desperate to leave.

Well I’m happy about that

Haven't seen it either, but it could be a way of bumping his price up. In a 'we don't need to sell him, so make us an offer we can't refuse' type of thing?