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NDAA Bill. Whats your view?



Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
So if you put a youtube video on NSC, it is not valid for discussion? If thats your point then well made.

Not in this case. Post the high level details of the bill and then your view. Anyone can just post random Youtube clips about politics but that doesn't make it a discussion.
 




Falmer

Banned
Nov 22, 2010
1,356
Earth
I don't quite follow. I've tried to be helpful and polite, not sure why I warrant such abuse.

PS - And with regard to your post above I have never personally attacked you.

Isn't it a bit arrogant to start telling thread starters what the topic should of been?
 






severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,827
By the seaside in West Somerset
I just had to check in the bathroom mirror to make sure I hadn't turned into my father because I find myself saying "the trouble with the youth of today is that they want every part of the thinking process done for them."

Personally I blame pocket calculators. Without them they would still have to be able to add up and subtract. With them, all recourse to thinking for themselves could be abandoned.

Back on topic, common courtesy dictates that if you want others' views on a topic you should be able to express your own.
 




Falmer

Banned
Nov 22, 2010
1,356
Earth
Not in this case. Post the high level details of the bill and then your view. Anyone can just post random Youtube clips about politics but that doesn't make it a discussion.

So what your sying is, Video evidence of news reports on this subject don't count for anything?

Do you even know what the NDAA Bill is? if not then why are you on here arguing?
 


Scampi

One of the Three
Jun 10, 2009
1,531
Denton
All I've said is ' whats your view?'. Look at the response.

I have and im not surprised by it. I tried watching your video but couldnt stomach more than a minute. If you want people to discuss something you need to give them a better summary of the issue. Most people are going to disregard that video. It's too long and it looks like it was made by nutjob rednecks. Yes the repsonse is harsh but thats what happens on the internet it ain't going to change for you. It comes back to the point that if you want a discussion you need to be cleverer.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
Isn't it a bit arrogant to start telling thread starters what the topic should of been?

But he hasn't told you what topic to post !!!! He's suggested you've been lazy in trying to start a discussion using a Youtube clip rather than typing out you're own view.
 




Fungus

Well-known member
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May 21, 2004
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Why? because if the idots on here get given infomation the governments wont let you know, they respond with attacking personal comments about completely different subjects (just read this thread alone). If you are actually gong to express your views on a bill very simillar to the actions of the Nazis in ww2, then please go ahead.

It's a shame that you always want an argument rather than a discussion.
 








Falmer

Banned
Nov 22, 2010
1,356
Earth
It's a shame that you always want an argument rather than a discussion.

read throught he thread and point out all the discussions brought to the topic from the current observers. Now read all the topic related comments and explain the argument.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,530
The arse end of Hangleton
So what your sying is, Video evidence of news reports on this subject don't count for anything?

Do you even know what the NDAA Bill is? if not then why are you on here arguing?

Good grief :facepalm:

I'm not saying a Youtube clip counts for nothing but it is very lazy just to post one and say "discuss". What are your views on the NDAA bill - they are noticeable by their absence ?

Yes thank you - I know what the NDAA bill is but I can't be bothered to discuss it when you are so lazy as to not post a decent debatable point.
 


Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
19,882
But he hasn't told you what topic to post !!!! He's suggested you've been lazy in trying to start a discussion using a Youtube clip rather than typing out you're own view.
Thankyou Westdene. I see this thread has now been moved to Childish Ramblings (aka 'The other stuff'). Probably the best place for it.
 






Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,882
Isn't it a bit arrogant to start telling thread starters what the topic should of been?
See Westdene's post. I never told you what the topic should have been, but then I know you're just obfuscating the issue rather than admit that I might, heaven forbid, have a point.. Anyway as you're obviously not interested in this topic (certainly not interested enough to put to together a viewpoint) then neither am I. Good-day gentlemen.
 


Falmer

Banned
Nov 22, 2010
1,356
Earth
2 pages of complete tripe totally off the subject. NDAA bill, what's your view? is te question.

Now I know I've been a lazy boy in using youtube especially in your day you had to get up at 4.30 am and do your 'research' but then why does another thread with the opening page containing just videos recieve over 3,000 views?

I think it's more down to a lack of knowledge on the NDAA Bill than a lack of English.
 


Scampi

One of the Three
Jun 10, 2009
1,531
Denton
Ok get it straight

1. Thats not MY video.
2. I f you don't watch the video then don't before discussing it. Simples.

1 - I know it's not your video

2 - The point i'm trying to get across is you wont get a discussion of the issue by posting a 10 min video. If you want a discussion on a n issue write a short summary of what it is. back it up with a link to a credible source (eg a repected newspaper or tv webiste).

You need to think about the medium, NSC isn't going to change for you, you need to tailor you're approach to your audience or your threads will all end up as like this.
 




Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
14,913
Almería
2 pages of complete tripe totally off the subject. NDAA bill, what's your view? is te question.

Now I know I've been a lazy boy in using youtube especially in your day you had to get up at 4.30 am and do your 'research' but then why does another thread with the opening page containing just videos recieve over 3,000 views?

I think it's more down to a lack of knowledge on the NDAA Bill than a lack of English.

I gave my view on the NDAA bill. As I said it's a worrying move but not surprising. The video you posted is far from balanced though and doesn't explain the bill at all. I'm against the bill but the hyperbolic youtube clip isn't the way to sway others or get their opinion.
 


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