NDAA Bill. Whats your view?

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Brovion

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I'm sorry, I really don't want to start another binfest - but why don't you think for yourself for a change? You never know, you may even be right on this one.
 


Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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It's a worrying move but not surprising. I think the alarmist video obfuscates the key point though (possible indefinite detention of US citizens without trial). Posting ten minute youtube vids isn't the best way to make a point.
 




Falmer

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It's a worrying move but not surprising. I think the alarmist video obfuscates the key point though (possible indefinite detention of US citizens without trial). Posting ten minute youtube vids isn't the best way to make a point.

I don't have a point, I want to know what other people think of this Bill.
 




Fungus

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Brovion

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So why is it called a discussion board?
Er, yes, that's my point. 'Discussion'. It's not 'NorthstandYoutubeClips'. Posting a YouTube clip is the intellectual equivalent of photocopying pages from a book and handing it in as your homework.
 


Falmer

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Er, yes, that's my point. 'Discussion'. It's not 'NorthstandYoutubeClips'. Posting a YouTube clip is the intellectual equivalent of photocopying pages from a book and handing it in as your homework.

So if you put a youtube video on NSC, it is not valid for discussion? If thats your point then well made.
 












Brovion

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So if you put a youtube video on NSC, it is not valid for discussion? If thats your point then well made.
For a subject like this, as opposed to a quick clip of a dog chasing a deer or something - yes, that is exactly my point. Firstly as has been pointed out not everyone can access YouTube at work. Secondly that clip is ten minutes long, you'd have to make notes and watch it several times to grasp everything that's being said. What you should do is exactly that, and then come on here with a precis of what's being said, and, as you want to stimulate a discussion, your opinion and take on the matter.

However I concede it is simpler and less intellectually rigourous to simply post a YouTube clip and say 'discuss'.

EDIT: For an example see drew's 'God or Colour' thread. Could you do something like that?
 
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Scampi

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Falmer you've got to start learning how to engage with people. Learn from past threads and stop expecting the board to change for you. It is what it is (right or wrong). If you want a discussion you need to explain the issue in your post perhaps with a link to a credible source, not just link to some youtube foxnews montage. And don't react aggressively to criticism (no matter how harsh or personal), by doing so you allow people to derail the thread and you lose credibility.
 






Falmer

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Falmer you've got to start learning how to engage with people. Learn from past threads and stop expecting the board to change for you. It is what it is (right or wrong). If you want a discussion you need to explain the issue in your post perhaps with a link to a credible source, not just link to some youtube foxnews montage. And don't react aggressively to criticism (no matter how harsh or personal), by doing so you allow people to derail the thread and you lose credibility.

All I've said is ' whats your view?'. Look at the response.
 


Badger

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It does remind of an exam question.

"Picture or quote"

followed by "discuss"

What's the word limit?
 


Falmer

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Why? I don't even know you!

Why? because if the idots on here get given infomation the governments wont let you know, they respond with attacking personal comments about completely different subjects (just read this thread alone). If you are actually gong to express your views on a bill very simillar to the actions of the Nazis in ww2, then please go ahead.
 




Brovion

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'Is it possible for your head to be anymore up your arse?' thread.
Would that be better?
I don't quite follow. I've tried to be helpful and polite, not sure why I warrant such abuse.

PS - And with regard to your post above I have never personally attacked you.
 


Falmer

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It does remind of an exam question.

"Picture or quote"

followed by "discuss"

What's the word limit?

Do you know if the US government for some random reason decide you've done something wrong ie illegally download a song. They now have the right to arrest you without charge and detain and torture you for as long as they want, without any justice.
 


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