Naylor slags off Amex support

[worthingseagull123]

Our support isn't as passionate as other clubs unfortunately. Give it a few generations though

 

[Bozza]

Ha!
Isn't every single point in ANs column today been made by someone on NSC recently, even the Palace have the noisiest atmos zinger. (Best away fans, poor atmos in Amex, poor turn out for evening games, crowd as "12th man").

Not just today's column, but ever, I think.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

You are kidding Muff and Staines probably but the others, especially Swansea are loud. Plus they know all the words to their own anthem!

No, not kidding. They were quiet when I went there.

 

[Superphil]

Only if you wave your CLACKERS at the same time.

Or if the North Stand all sang at alter same time (and the same song)

 

[Guinness Boy]

Not just today's column, but ever, I think.

What's his user name?

 

[Bozza]

No, not kidding. They were quiet when I went there.

That's the problem with this sort of thing though isn't it? We visit other grounds generally once a season and no more. For a whole host of reasons the home fans could be having an 'off day'. Hopefully it will be because the Albion are playing the home side off the park, giving the home fans nothing to feed off.

I'm not sure any of us can definitely say that any group of fans are better or worse than us because our experience of each set of fans is so very limited.

It's for this reason that I question Andy Naylor's comment on the Palace fans. From what I've experienced first hand at Selhurst Park, which is likely exactly the same as Andy's experiences, they are nothing out of the ordinary at all. Their reputation seems to be solely due to their arrival in the otherwise sterile world of the Premier League, bringing a bit of lower league passion and rawness with them. By all accounts that is now dissipating somewhat too. It strikes me that, based on his likely limited experience, he is just recirculating what seems to be a bit of a cliche now.

Beyond that, how can we put a set of fans above our own when, in the same division, we were getting nearly double their crowds? It just doesn't stack up.

 

[BeHereNow]

North Stand Goldstone took 6,000, and that was 80/90's, probably more in ancient times.

Yes, I know that. But it was about the same size, it's just that the new one has seats.

 

[Bigtomfu]

I'm happy to defend vocally AN and the other journalists who regularly cover the Albion.. I think the criticism he gets on here is ridiculous. Its certainly not poorly researched, dull or trite.
The Argus pays for impressive Albion photography, reporting, journalism, it occasionally holds the club to account (pricing, player recruitment, performances), and provides 2-4 pages of Albion coverage in print,most of it for free online and on Twitter nearly 7 days a week. Of course AN sometimes gets things wrong and he's sometimes tetchy about NSC (who can blame him after comments like the above) but he often holds up his hands to that and is remarkably patient on Twitter especially with some of the reaction he gets.

At the moment the owners of the Albion are relatively benign but that might not always be the case in which case paid journalism with the motivation and resources to scrutinise our club is something worth supporting everywhere.


Do you just want local media to be purely the match reports and coverage provided via the staff who write for seagulls.co.uk ?

I make comments like the above because of how I perceive his coverage which I consider to be poorly researched, dull and trite. You don't, it's a free world and so there we go.

The Argus hasn't exactly been local since its acquisition by Newsquest and AN definitely isn't local himself. I consider him a very lucky individual without much talent who comes across as high and mighty yet rarely has the scoop or skinny and when he does its invariably come from snooping around on here which sometimes comes to bite him on the arse. (Hence his disdain of the place.)

Holding a club to account is the least I would expect of any local rag but there again is the dichotomy because they only do it to boost circulation figures.

Personally I really think local media is about as useful in the modern era as a chocolate tea pot and as such I choose to not read or listen to anything he says. Again that's only my opinion.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I make comments like the above because of how I perceive his coverage which I consider to be poorly researched, dull and trite. You don't, it's a free world and so there we go.

The Argus hasn't exactly been local since its acquisition by Newsquest and AN definitely isn't local himself. I consider him a very lucky individual without much talent who comes across as high and mighty yet rarely has the scoop or skinny and when he does its invariably come from snooping around on here which sometimes comes to bite him on the arse. (Hence his disdain of the place.)

Holding a club to account is the least I would expect of any local rag but there again is the dichotomy because they only do it to boost circulation figures.

Personally I really think local media is about as useful in the modern era as a chocolate tea pot and as such I choose to not read or listen to anything he says. Again that's only my opinion.

Why do you think Andy Naylor is not local? Where do you think he came from?

 

[8ace]

Not just today's column, but ever, I think.

It's not uncommon for two people to have a similar idea independently, e.g I posted some stats about how well we do when Hemed and Baldock both start - a few weeks later there was a similar article in the Argus.

 

[sydney]

The juxtaposition of the TV gantry / cameras and the no-mans-land in the South is particularly unfortunate. Even an almost sell out will provide ample TV coverage of massive empty part of the South and SE.

why not cover this area with a large flag or fill the seats with manequins.............must be annoying for the club that they have provided 500 ,000 quids worth of seating that no-one is allowed to use , why not have a grassed are with some farm animals or perhaps a small steam engine on a track for the kids to ride at half time...

 

[Bigtomfu]

Why do you think Andy Naylor is not local? Where do you think he came from?

By virtue of the fact that he supports Stoke City erm Stoke. No one would make a free choice to actively support them from distance?!

Clearly he may have been born locally but by his own admission he supports Stoke, and therefore is not an Albion fan. This has always irrationally annoyed me because then he's just doing a job rather than living it like we do.

 

[Bigtomfu]

must be annoying for the club that they have provided 500 ,000 quids worth of seating that no-one is allowed to use

Erm, why is no one allowed to use it? If they sold enough tickets they would.

 

[marshy68]

That's a little unfair. Just as you may not hear the WSU from the North Stand, you need to realise that not much is heard from the North Stand when in WSU !

I have to agree. I am not into this stand is louder bollox. I sit in wsu block g close to north and the north is just not very loud. But to me the wsu especially round me sings alot. I really think the logistics play tricks at the amex

 

[Papa Lazarou]

why not cover this area with a large flag or fill the seats with manequins.............must be annoying for the club that they have provided 500 ,000 quids worth of seating that no-one is allowed to use , why not have a grassed are with some farm animals or perhaps a small steam engine on a track for the kids to ride at half time...

They could use that area for the monorail station

 

[Thunder Bolt]

By virtue of the fact that he supports Stoke City erm Stoke. No one would make a free choice to actively support them from distance?!

Clearly he may have been born locally but by his own admission he supports Stoke, and therefore is not an Albion fan. This has always irrationally annoyed me because then he's just doing a job rather than living it like we do.

He chose Stoke because of Gordon Banks.
Some Albion fans prefer a neutral journalist to a biased one who may be a club apologist.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

By virtue of the fact that he supports Stoke City erm Stoke. No one would make a free choice to actively support them from distance?!

Clearly he may have been born locally but by his own admission he supports Stoke, and therefore is not an Albion fan. This has always irrationally annoyed me because then he's just doing a job rather than living it like we do.

I've sampled the relative comforts of the media facilities in the Premier League and the Championship and, believe me, it's very much in Andy Naylor's interests for us to be promoted. No-one in their right mind would want to go to Birmingham City, Brentford or Reading when they could be enjoying the lavish hospitality at Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City.

 

[Bigtomfu]

He chose Stoke because of Gordon Banks.
Some Albion fans prefer a neutral journalist to a biased one who may be a club apologist.

No I just don't see anything other than a work a day journo who likes antagonising as if he's Howard Stern when he's bloody well not.

I am not inferring that I'd prefer a club lap dog just someone with a bit of passion about the Albion rather than one with a penchant for the obviously antagonistic contrarian view.

I've sampled the relative comforts of the media facilities in the Premier League and the Championship and, believe me, it's very much in Andy Naylor's interests for us to be promoted. No-one in their right mind would want to go to Birmingham City, Brentford or Reading when they could be enjoying the lavish hospitality at Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City.

Yep and you know more than most what it takes to be offered a seat at that table and in my opinion that type of flair is something AN can only dream of.

Having you and Paul Hayward to read on a regular basis knowing you're Albion fans is very pleasing.

 

[Mr Bridger]

song for the run in, easy to sing , can bounce along and sounds good loud.

"Run away, run away,
To the premier league, that's where we'll stay
How we get there I don't know,
All I know is I want to go,
Run away , run away

Sing for 93 mins, what can go wrong. #slowthefeckdown!

 

[El Presidente]

By virtue of the fact that he supports Stoke City erm Stoke. No one would make a free choice to actively support them from distance?!

Clearly he may have been born locally but by his own admission he supports Stoke, and therefore is not an Albion fan. This has always irrationally annoyed me because then he's just doing a job rather than living it like we do.

He is local, he lived five doors down from me as a kid in Woodingdean. His parents are STH at the Amex too.