Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Why? We didn’t tolerate Hypia and that run wasn’t as bad.
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[Football] Nathan Jones
- Thread starter The Wookiee
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I'm sure he's waiting for the call. and pay off. Why would he resign
Stoke manager Nathan Jones: "For 45 minutes, that's as bad a performance as I've had since I've been a manager.
"No commitment, desire. A few performances out there were a real eye-opener. We got out-battled and out-fought a bit.
"We made a lot of changes but were still strong enough. Some of those players, it might be a while before they play.
"Whether they don't want to play for me, or it was just playing poorly, you will have to ask Sherlock Holmes. I don't know."
Stoke manager Nathan Jones: "For 45 minutes, that's as bad a performance as I've had since I've been a manager.
"No commitment, desire. A few performances out there were a real eye-opener. We got out-battled and out-fought a bit.
"We made a lot of changes but were still strong enough. Some of those players, it might be a while before they play.
"Whether they don't want to play for me, or it was just playing poorly, you will have to ask Sherlock Holmes. I don't know."
Wow. That's a damning critique. He's mentioned before that he's been shocked by some of the attitudes since he arrived.
It kind of helps explain why we've shipped a few players out recently as well . . .
Paris
Well-known member
That's a rather one-eyed assessment Simster. That read like the words of a Luton fan.
I'm not saying he's the next Jurgen Klopp, but he got Luton going from a lowly position and promoted from League Two and on their way to promotion when he jumped ship last January.
Harford certainly deserves his fair share of credit for how things have flourished at Luton over recent seasons. Nathan Jones and his favoured diamond formation too though.
Sincere question warning - What makes them a basket case club?
Bloody hell.
Probably the need for some reason to defend the results of "Golden Boy" Nathan Jones.
blue-shifted
Banned
Yes, when a manager stops defending their players to that level, they are in effect asking their chairman to pay their contract up. Interesting to see whether the chairman takes the bait. They are going to have some high earners in that club and i'll guess their parachute payments run out at the end of the season and they'll be in the situation where they will have to risk keeping them on with wages they can't cover or having a firesale. Either way paying off old manager's in an expense they can do without.
crodonilson
He/Him
The feeling amongst Stoke fans is that petience is beginning to run thin, he's probably got the 3 games before the next international break where he will be expected to pick up a minimum points haul of 4 to keep his job.
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Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
If he had waited until the end of last season he probably wouldn't have left Luton at all, as they would have been promoted.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Hyppia resigned though, he wasn't sacked.
Paris
Well-known member
You can't say that for definite. His stock would have been a tad higher than when he got seduced by Stoke last January.
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
True, but as you say because his stock would have risen with a promotion on his cv, he may have been offered a better job than Stoke.
I think some fans think his position is even more precarious than that
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/290204/jones-sack-make-friday?page=45
symyjym
Banned
Unfortunately he inherited a relegated team of Divas on their arse and his task was to build a new team which is a massive undertaking. Jones is someone who would have already completed a 5 mile run in the morning before the players even got out of bed and sets a high benchmark as an example including being teetotal. I think that what he did with Luton is good enough evidence to believe that he knows what he is doing but his personnel isn't scoring the chances created.
If they are starting to play good football, and the owners are satisfied with how the football is played, it would be a bad time to sack him.
He signed 12 of his own players - You can't knock what he did at Luton and there is a decent Manager in there somewhere but neither can you hide behind blaming what he inherited
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Never said he was sacked
Someone suggested Stoke fans should give him more time and I questioned the reason why?
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Never said he was sacked
Fair comment. My apologies.
While everything he says is probably quite true, it is also the voice of a man who has lost all confidence in both himself and his team. There is obviously a rift between him and his squad and blunt comments like that won't do any good. His days are numbered.