My view on the west ham ticket

[vulture]

I have a 3 year season ticket but the last away game I went to was the palace away in 2005.If we had drawn West Ham at Home I would of expected a ticket but as It was away I did not apply as I think all the away fans that go should of got first choice.I find it really sad that fans that went to Port Vale yesterday will not be getting a ticket to the West Ham game.All season ticket holders in my view have no right to first choice on tickets and if any fan as 1 or 2 have stated on here will not renew there season ticket over not getting a West Ham ticket then they can f*** off as the club does not threats like that.
The ticket office and the club do the very best they can and its really fucks me off big time that

1)We can sell over 5 thousand tickets for a cup game yet get 5,100 odd for some home games

 

[1066gull]

Think a points system is the best thing to do.

 

[vulture]

Think a points system is the best thing to do.

Agree and would not be 2 hard to set up

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Thats the point, some of us who went to the FA cup games at withdean about 4000 of us after taking the away fans out will have missed out, meaning about 1000 people who couldnt be bothered to turn up and watch us at HOME have tickets.

And I bet people who went to the Lewes game have got tickets for west ham as well.

It stinks.

But im not bitter

 

[Stevegull]

A points system would be interesting to see who REALLY does deserve a ticket even if they didn't implement it.

How would you work it out tho?

1, Number of home games attended 1 point
2, Away games less than 100 mile round trip 2 points
3, Away games less than 200 mile round trip 3 points
4, Away games less than 300 mile round trip 4 points
5, Away games more than 400 mile round trip 5 points and free ticket to the funny farm


Now posted as a thread

 

[vulture]

Thats the point, some of us who went to the FA cup games at withdean about 4000 of us after taking the away fans out will have missed out, meaning about 1000 people who couldnt be bothered to turn up and watch us at HOME have tickets.

And I bet people who went to the Lewes game have got tickets for west ham as well.

It stinks.

But im not bitter

1066 has a good point.A points system should be worked out that is fair to all Albion fans.I know people going that their last game was the play off final.Good luck to them but something isnt right if guys/girls that went to vale today cant get a ticket but people whose last game was 2 and half years ago can

 

[1066gull]

http://www.northstandchat.biz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94240

It was suggested by someone on the phone in not long ago, and I think it should be given a trial at the very least.

What sort of basis should it work upon? I have something like this figured out:

Home League Games: 1pt
Away League Games: 2pts
STH Home League Games: 2pts
STH Away League Games: 3pts
Home Cup Games: 2pt
Away Cup Games: 3pts
STH Home Cup Games: 3pts
STH Away Cup Games: 4pts


Is this fair?


Now for the test....


Adrie van der Meer: 10pts

 

[1066gull]

One thing I haven't added, the points system should be reset every season, so the previous season does not count.

 

[vulture]

Maybe Lord B or the Hun or harty could take this to the club or maybe dave the lapdog

 

[Wardy]

A points system would be interesting to see who REALLY does deserve a ticket even if they didn't implement it.

How would you work it out tho?

1, Number of home games attended 1 point
2, Away games less than 100 mile round trip 2 points
3, Away games less than 200 mile round trip 3 points
4, Away games less than 300 mile round trip 4 points
5, Away games more than 400 mile round trip 5 points and free ticket to the funny farm

The problem with that system where do you start the clock? We have a number of fans that live up north. That means that a trip to some games are a 5-10 mile trip, while for anyone in Brighton it is 250 miles.

 

[Ned]

Just one question. How do you factor into this system people who work shifts and can,t always make games? (be they home or away) but do go to games they can make as work allows.

In all honesty I've missed both the previous rounds of the FA cup and the Milwall away game in the pisspot due to work / commitments but did go to the two games at withdean against lower league clubs. I still feel I pay my dues. Discuss!

 

[vulture]

Just one question. How do you factor into this system people who work shifts and can,t always make games? (be they home or away) but do go to games they can make as work allows.

In all honesty I've missed both the previous rounds of the FA cup and the Milwall away game in the pisspot due to work / commitments but did go to the two games at withdean against lower league clubs. I still feel I pay my dues. Discuss!

Ned you would have no probs getting into the top 5000

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Ned, I take your point but if a points system was introduced you would have got points for the games you attended which would give you priority in front of people who only ever go to the big glory games.

The club should reward the people who put most back into the club, thow I do sympathise where with people who have work commitments.

 

[Beach Hut]

Just one question. How do you factor into this system people who work shifts and can,t always make games? (be they home or away) but do go to games they can make as work allows.

In all honesty I've missed both the previous rounds of the FA cup and the Milwall away game in the pisspot due to work / commitments but did go to the two games at withdean against lower league clubs. I still feel I pay my dues. Discuss!

You could buy the ticket as you do a season and let someone use it therefore still get the points.

 

[clapham_gull]

It's essentially a loyalty card system.

.. or membership scheme.

This may sound ridiculous for a club in our position where a big third round draw comes along one in a blue moon, but it's a very useful marketing tool.

You quote a number when making a purchase or buy tickets. It's down to you to quote the number and also quote the number of others if you buy a batch.

Essentially you stack up points and this could possibly be extended to purchases in the club shop.

It's definately very much for the future and even if it was set up now it would take at least a season for the points tally to be fair.

The only problem is away games where you pay on the gate. The only way I could see that working is if the away club would agree to hand out vouchers at the turnstile that could be redeemed for points later.

.. but what sells the scheme to me is that it easily records HOME non STH sales.

This STH versus AWAY Members is a little bit simplistic because people exist in both groups and the non STH who come to games at home regularly are left out the equation.

Maybe there aren't any at the moment - but why not dangle a carrot over them with the promise of "preference points"

If you forget over subscribed games for a minute the scheme could actually allow fans to cash in points over a certain level for free or discounted tickets at home games, whilst obviously losing points that could be utilised for preferential treatment for the "big games".

You could even "lose" a few points for a discount in the shop.

Throw in a draw each home game to win "points".

Get people along to the "lesser" cup games by adding extra "value" to the game.

Get someone new along to the Withdean (introduce a friend if you like) and gain a few extra points...

Subscribe to Seagulls World for a season - equivalant to buying a home ticket or a shirt.

Whatever.. the whole system rewards loyalty (of non STH as well) and the system, may encourage bigger attendances at the "lesser" games and is a transparent way of guaging preference.

It also records exactly what people are purchasing, spending and it becomes easier to target those groups in terms of advertising.

I thought about a scheme like this in terms of helping the marketing of tickets and Withdean, prior to "WestHamGate".

 

[1066gull]

Just one question. How do you factor into this system people who work shifts and can,t always make games? (be they home or away) but do go to games they can make as work allows.

In all honesty I've missed both the previous rounds of the FA cup and the Milwall away game in the pisspot due to work / commitments but did go to the two games at withdean against lower league clubs. I still feel I pay my dues. Discuss!

Ned, I went to see the two poorer sides too, and none of the away games just like you - but this points system would make sure we get tickets to big games.

I have only been to 6 games (so my calculation is wrong in my post above, meaning I have a total of 10 points from just 6 games.

That gives me a huge priority over someone who has only been to MK Dons in the Paint Pot lets just say, who only have 3 points if they are not a STH.

 

[1066gull]

It's essentially a loyalty card system.

.. or membership scheme.

I know this seems ridiculous for a club in our position where a big third round draw comes along one in a blue moon, but it's a very useful marketing tool.

You quote a number when making a purchase or buy tickets. It's down to you to quote the number and also quote the number of others if you buy a batch.

Essentially you stack up points and this could possibly be extended to purchases in the club shop.
That is a nice idea actually, and probably the best way to go about it is to use some sort of membership card that has points added to your name.

It's definately very much for the future and even if it was set up now it would take at least a season for the points tally to be fair.The downside to that though is if they points get carried over, someone will have a mammoth amount of points over a period of time they could effectively not go to a season of games but still have overall priority. It should be wiped clean every season IMO.

The only problem is away games where you pay on the gate. The only way I could see that working is if the away club would agree to hand out vouchers at the turnstile that could be redeemed for points later.Retain stubs and transact it with the membership card/number you have?

.. but what sells the scheme to me is that it easily records HOME non STH sales.
Still think home sales should be worth less than away games

This STH versus AWAY Members is a little bit simplistic because people exist in both groups and the non STH who come to games at home regularly are left out the equation.
STH gete priority over AMS and AMS get priority over everyone else with STH and AMS getting the maximum priority. (See points system above)

If you forget over subscribed games for a minute the scheme could actually allow fans to cash in points over a certain level for free or discounted tickets at home games, whilst obviously losing points that could be utilised for preferential treatment for the "big games".

Throw in a draw each home game to win "points".
Not really earning it...

Get people along to the "lesser" cup games by adding extra "value" to the game.
Worth a go, doubt it will though

Get someone new along to the Withdean (introduce a friend if you like) and gain a few extra points.

Whatever.. the whole system rewards loyalty (of non STH as well) and the system, may encourage bigger attendances at the "lesser" games and is a transparent way of guaging preference.

I thought about a scheme like this in terms of helping the marketing of tickets, prior to "WestHamGate".

 

[clapham_gull]

Nice you've learnt how to quote in red under each paragraph. When you enter the world of work you'll learn that such practice should ONLY exist in the classroom and in all other cases is frankly quite patronising

Anyway.. don't think I've made the point clear enough above.

What I'm trying to do is COMBINE the problems of attracting people to games home and away with the problem of fairly distributing tickets.

Somewhere in my head the two issues are closely connected.

You do need to reward people who come to home games, that's the bread and butter. I'm sure the players and management wanted to make a guesture to those who "travelled" to Millwall, but at the same time the club are TRYING to increase home support.

Of course some people will spend and have more money than others. I'd counteract that with throwing in points to the system as part of a draw.

(not earned ? well my friend - you'd have to buy a ticket for Withdean to enter wouldn't you )

 

[clapham_gull]

.. any views ?

 

[1066gull]

.. any views ?

I will come back tomorrow morning, people must be in bed.