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Murray article in Argus today



tommynockers

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Dec 6, 2013
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Yep.

However if he was still here on say £10,000 a week the last four years would have cost us £2m in wages. Get him back now for a million and we are a million up on the deal!!

(Just trying to make it seem OK!)

Or we could be in the premiership 100 million up!! :)
 




Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
23,700
Brighton
He can't play (effectively) more than around 60mins per game. Will he ever get full match fitness back? Who knows. We seem to be his 3rd option at best. Let's move on.
 


Withdean11

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Feb 18, 2007
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Brighton/Hyde
At least with Murray, you could say he had never proved himself at Championship level. Poyet made the call that he wouldn't cope, and to be fair he did struggle for Palace in that first season (the 3-1 Amex result excepted). He called it wrong, but mistakes happen.

Yep, I'll add that at the point Poyet let Murray go, we had a replacement striker lined up in CMS. Poyet's judgement that he would be better. Hard to blame him for his mis judgement after some very good judment both before and after.

And to be fair, in the first season in the championship, CMS scored more that Murray...
 


The same guy that couldn't be bothered to chase back when he lost the ball at Withdean or ASKED to leave 3 summers running after we had given him a job. Horrible man

If I had £1 for every single time someone on NSC posted factually incorrect information with regards to Glenn Murray I would be a very rich man. Versus Leeds in 2008, yes 7 years ago, he had a hernia, hence why he couldn't chase back. He should not have been played by dinosaur Adams.

He handed in a transfer request, probably down to all the rubbish he had to put up with from misinformed fans, who subsequently booed him because he didnt clap them once like a performing seal. It's a mark of what a genuine, talented person and footballer he is that after all of that, he fired us to promotion.

How was he then rewarded? By a dispute over wages as he was set to be paid considerably less than a certain striker we went onto sign that summer. He didnt want to leave, his gf and stepson still live in Brighton. I would welcome him back, top player and person.
 


Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
22,115
Cowfold
The same guy that couldn't be bothered to chase back when he lost the ball at Withdean or ASKED to leave 3 summers running after we had given him a job. Horrible man

Frankly, as long as he bagged us a hat-ful of goals, l couldn't care less if he was the devil incarnate.

Glenn Murray isn't the devil-incarnate by the way.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
If I had £1 for every single time someone on NSC posted factually incorrect information with regards to Glenn Murray I would be a very rich man. Versus Leeds in 2008, yes 7 years ago, he had a hernia, hence why he couldn't chase back. He should not have been played by dinosaur Adams.

He handed in a transfer request, probably down to all the rubbish he had to put up with from misinformed fans, who subsequently booed him because he didnt clap them once like a performing seal. It's a mark of what a genuine, talented person and footballer he is that after all of that, he fired us to promotion.

How was he then rewarded? By a dispute over wages as he was set to be paid considerably less than a certain striker we went onto sign that summer. He didnt want to leave, his gf and stepson still live in Brighton. I would welcome him back, top player and person.

Award yourself another couple of quid as he had hernia problems when Wilkins was manager, and he has a wife, not a girlfriend.
 


Biscuit

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Jul 8, 2003
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Brighton
Very much this.

At least with Murray, you could say he had never proved himself at Championship level. Poyet made the call that he wouldn't cope, and to be fair he did struggle for Palace in that first season (the 3-1 Amex result excepted). He called it wrong, but mistakes happen.

However, by the time we let Barnes go, he was a PROVEN Championship striker. He'd played on his own up front and scored goals, he could hold the ball up. Some fans thought he was profligate, some thought him clumsy, immobile and slow - but he's quite clearly better than any of our current crop. And we let him go for an absolute steal, and now he's scoring goals in the top flight.

You only had to see his performance against Arsenal with Ulloa in the cup 3 years ago to see that both were going to cope alright in the Premiership. Absolutely pony decision to let him go. Totally inexcusable.

Six months left on his contract and we took a decent fee. That's the argument the club would make,

I agree, and said at the time, we'd be better off letting his contract run down than selling him. Another move that might well have cost us big time,
 


Lifelong Supporter

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Aug 4, 2009
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Burgess Hill
Murray had one really good season in the Championship when his confidence was sky high. Other than that he has had one poor year and this season is going pretty well but nothing remarkable.

If he were to arrive here he would divide opinion, much as he did before. His best days are gone though.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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England
Very amusing that the FOOTBALL MANAGER is being blamed for an issue over us not wanting to pay increased WAGE demands.

WAGE demands which fall under the catagory of MONEY. Something the manager has literally NO influence over.

Trust me, Gus wanted him to stay. Beyond that the manager hands the reigns over to the money men. It's up to them to agree a contract with the player's representative, not the manager.
 




matt

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Mar 19, 2007
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He can't play (effectively) more than around 60mins per game. Will he ever get full match fitness back? Who knows. We seem to be his 3rd option at best. Let's move on.

Long enough to get a couple of goals it would seem.
 




SeeGoals

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Jan 22, 2009
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Horsham by the sea


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Murray had one really good season in the Championship when his confidence was sky high. Other than that he has had one poor year and this season is going pretty well but nothing remarkable.

If he were to arrive here he would divide opinion, much as he did before. His best days are gone though.

Spoke to a Norwich fan who said he was head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch when they played Reading. He did OK against us too didn't he?
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Very amusing that the FOOTBALL MANAGER is being blamed for an issue over us not wanting to pay increased WAGE demands.

WAGE demands which fall under the catagory of MONEY. Something the manager has literally NO influence over.

Trust me, Gus wanted him to stay. Beyond that the manager hands the reigns over to the money men. It's up to them to agree a contract with the player's representative, not the manager.

I don't trust you, it was VERY clear that Poyet was never a big fan of Murrays and that CMS was the way forward. I heard enough post match interviews with Poyet to glean this information thanks, he is very easy to read if you hadn't noticed.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Article is online now. Key bits: Poyet was responsible for letting him go, he is wanted by the Albion if we can get him back

The most key point - Reading had a clause to buy him in the loan agreement with Palace, for a figure believed to be £2.2 million. The clause has not so far been triggered.
We're way down the queue.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
The most key point - Reading had a clause to buy him in the loan agreement with Palace, for a figure believed to be £2.2 million. The clause has not so far been triggered.
We're way down the queue.

It all depends on Glenn Murray though, really, and what he wants. He won't sign for Reading if he wants to go elsewhere, surely.
 


fat old seagull

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Sep 8, 2005
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Rural Ringmer
Barber's quote:

"The best clubs don't release their best players, and the clubs that are struggling certainly don't release their best players"

Where do we fit into that then in his mind I wonder?

Surely we can't criticise him for those considerations.... they are entirely accurate. I'm sure he was just preparing us for the worst, it won't be easy at this time of the season to find an available free scoring player at any price.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,366
Barber's quote:

"The best clubs don't release their best players, and the clubs that are struggling certainly don't release their best players"

Where do we fit into that then in his mind I wonder?

FFP-obsessed clubs release their best players and hope to get away with replacing them with cheap dross.
 


Award yourself another couple of quid as he had hernia problems when Wilkins was manager, and he has a wife, not a girlfriend.

Right, thanks for that. At the time of this happening, it was his girlfriend. It was also a recurrence of his hernia that prevented him from tracking back. It was under Adams, we lost 0-2 at home.
 


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