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[News] Multiple shootings in Plymouth



Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Why are you not surprised?

Later, waiting for the details to come out before I say anything, people are now coming out of shock and are now taking in what happened, so I am not going to give my view all the time things are very raw in that area of Plymouth, our local news tonight was very sad indeed.
 




Sarisbury Seagull

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Incel is short for Involuntary Celibacy.

It’s basically a mindset that has developed online over the last decade where men who can’t find a girlfriend and decide to blame the entire world for this problem rather than looking within. A lot of Incels fall in to the ‘nice guy’ trap, where they see themselves as being nice guys who girls (known as Staceys) look past because they prefer shagging blokes based entirely on looks (known as Chads)

The problem with that train of thought (well, one of many) is most INCELS are primitive troglodytes with next to no social skills, no care for their appearances, no hobbies etc but still expect the popular, good looking girl in their class/lectures/daily lives to notice them and fall head over heels in love with them. They end up forming these online communities where they all wallow in their collective pity and corrupt each other even further.

The people who are really off the deep end feel like women are put on this Earth just to pleasure men and that by not wanting to have sex with them they’re committing some kind of horrendous crime against nature. At the extreme it’s genuinely horrifying - Elliot Rodgers killed 7 people in America a few years ago because he’s an Incel. He’s almost worshiped in some corners of the internet.

Thank you for the explanantion. Frightening.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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'I am a terminator'

Video removed by Moderator. As per the earlier request, please no more videos of this man on here.

This video is not removed as i have just watched it here. It is a sad watch that a young man can feel this way (and I do wonder about born wrong/evil vs today's society creating such a person). It's appalling that he then had access to deadly firearms in this country and it's despicable and utterly unforgivable what he did with them. As he had access to a firearm and did not seek help then he should have gone straight to shooting himself dead.
That's pretty clever, considering the video has been deleted on here.
 


dazzer6666

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Quite horrifying that he legally had a gun, recently having his licence renewed. Wonder who he had as referees and what the local police did in terms of a home inspection……..
 






METALMICKY

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Jan 30, 2004
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Quite horrifying that he legally had a gun, recently having his licence renewed. Wonder who he had as referees and what the local police did in terms of a home inspection……..

Obviously first major question to be asked. Certainly his profile does not look great but I'd be really interested as to what the stated use of pump action shotgun was?
 




herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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First link posted on here removed at 12.15 pm; second one deleted by mod at 2.40 pm. You'd 'just read it on here' at 4.18 pm.

OK, whatever.

Shit, this magic mushroom tea is stronger than i thought then. :mad:..... It was in the quoted post (not the original) when I watched it, I couldn't care less what time-stamp investigations you have done. I wouldn't have commented otherwise obviously.
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Incel is short for Involuntary Celibacy.

It’s basically a mindset that has developed online over the last decade where men who can’t find a girlfriend and decide to blame the entire world for this problem rather than looking within. A lot of Incels fall in to the ‘nice guy’ trap, where they see themselves as being nice guys who girls (known as Staceys) look past because they prefer shagging blokes based entirely on looks (known as Chads)

The problem with that train of thought (well, one of many) is most INCELS are primitive troglodytes with next to no social skills, no care for their appearances, no hobbies etc but still expect the popular, good looking girl in their class/lectures/daily lives to notice them and fall head over heels in love with them. They end up forming these online communities where they all wallow in their collective pity and corrupt each other even further.

The people who are really off the deep end feel like women are put on this Earth just to pleasure men and that by not wanting to have sex with them they’re committing some kind of horrendous crime against nature. At the extreme it’s genuinely horrifying - Elliot Rodgers killed 7 people in America a few years ago because he’s an Incel. He’s almost worshiped in some corners of the internet.

LBC looked at this in detail this afternoon, with experts who’ve raised the issue of the dangers of Incel for some time.

It’s huge, unsurprisingly, in the US. Older ‘believers’ groom teenagers all over the world during chats online in gaming sites. Easy to influence kids.
 


GT49er

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Shit, this magic mushroom tea is stronger than i thought then. :mad:..... It was in the quoted post (not the original) when I watched it, I couldn't care less what time-stamp investigations you have done. I wouldn't have commented otherwise obviously.
Ah, I see - a major fvck up on quoting posts. BG used to do it all the time ......................

..... and you're still doing it. :shrug:
 








Whitechapel

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LBC looked at this in detail this afternoon, with experts who’ve raised the issue of the dangers of Incel for some time.

It’s huge, unsurprisingly, in the US. Older ‘believers’ groom teenagers all over the world during chats online in gaming sites. Easy to influence kids.

I checked out an incel forum earlier, just out of curiosity.

The general view on there is he was too goodlooking to be an actual incel. Some are even pissed off thst he failed on ‘easy mode’

It’s sad to think how sad and isolated these people must be.
 


GT49er

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PotG didn't remove his link - it was up for a few hours after he said he'd deleted it.
Not that it matters.
See the following exchange - PotG said he'd delete it just after 12 o'clock. I looked, but coulsn't see the link then - even if I'd missed it, GB had deleted it two hours later. Long before four o'clock.

Shhhh, don't tell anyone but it's all over the media.
You don't HAVE to watch it if you don't want to.

You don't HAVE to spread it further if you don't want to.

Ok, sorry.
I'll delete it.
My bad.

Appreciated. :thumbsup:
 




birthofanorange

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Aug 31, 2011
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David Gilmour's armpit
See the following exchange - PotG said he's delete it just after 12 o'clock. When I replied to him, appreciating that he'd removed it, was a few minutes later. His link wasn't there then, otherwise I wouldn't have acknowledged his change of mind.

I know what he 'said' he'd done, and I read all the following exchanges at the time.

The fact remains that his link was still there a few hours after he'd said he had deleted it. As an aside, I very nearly commented on the fact that it was just the kind of thing he'd do - leave it there, after saying he'd delete it - but I couldn't be arsed.

I have no reason to make this up and it happens to be the truth.
 


GT49er

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I know what he 'said' he'd done, and I read all the following exchanges at the time.

The fact remains that his link was still there a few hours after he'd said he had deleted it. As an aside, I very nearly commented on the fact that it was just the kind of thing he'd do - leave it there, after saying he'd delete it - but I couldn't be arsed.

I have no reason to make this up and it happens to be the truth.

Pax.
 


birthofanorange

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No worries, and just in case - here is when it was removed:
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Weststander

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I checked out an incel forum earlier, just out of curiosity.

The general view on there is he was too goodlooking to be an actual incel. Some are even pissed off thst he failed on ‘easy mode’

It’s sad to think how sad and isolated these people must be.

Another danger of the internet.

Many, many teenage males and young men of every era go/went through the angst of spots, the good looking girls don’t fancy them, perhaps loneliness. Turning to music and whatever.

It’s a phase, it so often all comes good in the end.

These days there are a load of older internet shit-stirrers dragging kids into all sorts. I’ve seen it. Before they have a chance to mature, find their niche.

Imho.
 




herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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See the following exchange - PotG said he'd delete it just after 12 o'clock. I looked, but coulsn't see the link then - even if I'd missed it, GB had deleted it two hours later. Long before four o'clock.

First you picked on my post as if I was bullshitting for some reason (why would i do that?) and now you are going on and on about it and obviously beavering away to prove you're right. You know, it is ok to be wrong sometimes? Maybe relax a bit?
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
Another danger of the internet.

Many, many teenage males and young men of every era go/went through the angst of spots, the good looking girls don’t fancy them, perhaps loneliness. Turning to music and whatever.

It’s a phase, it so often all comes good in the end.

These days there are a load of older internet shit-stirrers dragging kids into all sorts. I’ve seen it. Before they have a chance to mature, find their niche.

Imho.

I said many years ago, when people started to understand the Internet and it became very powerful that it is one of the best inventions ever created and also the most dangerous, some of the stuff on it should never be allowed.
It is a grooming heaven for paedophiles for example even though the police use it to catch them they are just the tip of a very big iceberg.
 


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