[Football] Mudryk and his 8.5 years

[WhingForPresident]

Absolutely nuts that it's that simple to dodge FFP. How on earth is one team spanking £500m on players in the space of four months considered 'fair play'?

 

[Bozza]

Absolutely nuts that it's that simple to dodge FFP. How on earth is one team spanking £500m on players in the space of four months considered 'fair play'?

It's not "dodging FFP" - it's quite simple accounting practice.

And whilst it may allow them to buy more players now, by spreading the accounting cost of those acquisitions over a longer timeframe, they'll be taking an accounting (FFP) hit further into the future, which will limit their ability to bring players in years from now.

And, as others have said, it's not a risk-free approach either. If these players turn out to be duds, and can't be moved on, they'll have a lot of excess wages on their books also creating a financial drag on them.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I really f***ing hate Chelsea

 

[WhingForPresident]

It's not "dodging FFP" - it's quite simple accounting practice.

And whilst it may allow them to buy more players now, by spreading the accounting cost of those acquisitions over a longer timeframe, they'll be taking an accounting (FFP) hit further into the future, which will limit their ability to bring players in years from now.

And, as others have said, it's not a risk-free approach either. If these players turn out to be duds, and can't be moved on, they'll have a lot of excess wages on their books also creating a financial drag on them.

Suppose dodging is the wrong word, but in the way that they are dishing out these long contracts to reduce the short-term burden on their FFP total, thus avoiding falling foul of it.

It is risky business though, seems likely they'll find themselves in a bit of a sticky situation in a few years.

 

[Springal]

Suppose dodging is the wrong word, but in the way that they are dishing out these long contracts to reduce the short-term burden on their FFP total, thus avoiding falling foul of it.

It is risky business though, seems likely they'll find themselves in a bit of a sticky situation in a few years.

I wish we could get some of our players tied down on even 4-5 year deals at the moment ! Good business by Chelsea when making large investments

 

[Southern Scouse]

Why would a Ukrainian sign for a club whose supporters regularly idolise a Russian oligarch who’s best friends with Putin?

 

[Pavilionaire]

These long contracts are very risky on both sides. 7-9 year contracts means playing under 4-5 managers. Will these players suit every managers style and tactics? What if the players aren't up to it or pick up an injury and performance deteriorates?

Imagine if we'd given Locadia or Ali J an 8 year contract?!

 

[middletoenail]

Pretty sure Newcastle gave Alan Pardew a 8 year contract. That's far worse!

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I think most players these look at the bottom line first for family security then success on the pitch



This is simply to adhere to FFP, I’m sure there are break clauses for both sides somewhere in there

On the first point I guess it comes down to what someone considers enough for family security. Personally a four year deal on 100+ grand a week would provide me with plenty. So a four year deal would provide me with financial security and career flexibility. But I'm not ever going to be in that position so it's all academic/hypothetical.

On your second point, I agree, there must be some kind of break clause/mechanism or something similar in there. It's such a long time for both sides to be tied into.

 

[Kosh]

Why would a Ukrainian sign for a club whose supporters regularly idolise a Russian oligarch who’s best friends with Putin?

Absolutely shit loads of money.

With Chelsea - the answer above is usually the reason anyone is there at all.

Horrific club.

Who we absolutely embarrassed at the Amex.

Sweet.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

These long contracts are very risky on both sides. 7-9 year contracts means playing under 4-5 managers. Will these players suit every managers style and tactics? What if the players aren't up to it or pick up an injury and performance deteriorates?

Imagine if we'd given Locadia or Ali J an 8 year contract?!

Well yes, but the money we'd have spent on wages would be dwarfed by the increased transfer fees received if we'd have applied the same policy to players like bissouma trossard macallister

 

[Rookie]

Seeing as how he wanted to go to Arsenal, I’d imagine he is on a hefty (inflated) wage as well as a ridiculously long contract. Kids in the sweet shop spring to mind.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

On your second point, I agree, there must be some kind of break clause/mechanism or something similar in there. It's such a long time for both sides to be tied into.

If the contract can be unilaterally broken by the employer then it’s not worth the 8.5 years; why would a player then sign for so long?

 

[maresfield seagull]

These long contracts are very risky on both sides. 7-9 year contracts means playing under 4-5 managers. Will these players suit every managers style and tactics? What if the players aren't up to it or pick up an injury and performance deteriorates?

Imagine if we'd given Locadia or Ali J an 8 year contract?!

Up there don't you mean 7-9 managers in 4 to 5 years

 

[Hugo Rune]

I'd be surprised if that's how professionals at that level(or possibly any level) think.

And if that is his concern he'd still be on a hefty wage for a four year contract and could command a decent wage from his next club simply from being a Chelsea player and his earlier reputation. So he might earn a little less but he'd be playing and would have choice over his career moves rather than being shipped out on loan or left kicking his heels in the stands.

It was Shakthar’s concern. They must have told him who they wanted to sell him too. The guaranteed £60m+ makes the fact he is not going to Arsenal and has a stupidly long contract palatable but his club obviously called the deal.

 

[Don Tmatter]

Didnt RDZ say about him when asked his opinion at a press conference the other week, that he thought he was a future Ballon d’Or winner?

 

[AstroSloth]

Massive investment in someone whose only played in a farmers league.

Our own De Zerbi seems quite a fan though.

He managed him for a while and has said he has the potential to be a Ballon D'or winning player.

 

[dazzer6666]

It's not "dodging FFP" - it's quite simple accounting practice.

And whilst it may allow them to buy more players now, by spreading the accounting cost of those acquisitions over a longer timeframe, they'll be taking an accounting (FFP) hit further into the future, which will limit their ability to bring players in years from now.

And, as others have said, it's not a risk-free approach either. If these players turn out to be duds, and can't be moved on, they'll have a lot of excess wages on their books also creating a financial drag on them.

It’s ‘simple accounting practice’ in the same way as the wealthy lob their cash into offshore trusts to avoid paying tax. Within the rules, but still stinks a bit.

 

[Billy in Bristol]

Whilst it is clearly FFP influenced, these last two contracts for the Monaco defender and Mudryk echo the length of player contracts routinely issued by the LA Dodgers and other Baseball Teams.

 

[Springal]

Whilst it is clearly FFP influenced, these last two contracts for the Monaco defender and Mudryk echo the length of player contracts routinely issued by the LA Dodgers and other Baseball Teams.

Cucurella got 6 years as well!