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Mr Skalak



Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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At least BG is amusing. Unintentionally.

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True that - I was only joking BG - this place wouldn't be the same without your 7 posts on each thread :thumbsup:
 










Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
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I love Chris, but can someone please tell me what he sees in Skalak???

Yes, he scored a couple of good goals last season . But really all he does is look for the foul, or roll around pretending to be injured after being tackled! I find him really pathetic and the bloke is just plain irritating.

I really think we should look to offload him in Jan. R Van La Parra would have been a better option at a 1/3 of the price!

I thought he had a good game yesterday. Great free kick for Murray's second.

I think he will become an important player for us as the season progresses.
 




Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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I agree I do probably over rate Murphy but the Manager rates him highly as well and doesn't see him as 5th best winger at the club and it's only his decision that matters. Skalak gets in ahead of him occasionally because towards the tail end of last year Jamie's stats dropped dramatically in terms of his goals, goal assists and involvement in matches. At the same time Skalak was coming in and made a difference. His free kicks were leading to goals. Stats for these two though have reversed again recently

It's going to be a good problem to have in that we have so many options. There is also the Solly March to consider and last year before his injury he had hit form brilliantly but I am conscious that that run f form was only really over 3 or 4 games at the most. Wingers are the type of players that drift in and out of form and being able to change them over when form drops is a good thing

Yes . . . and no. Whilst I agree that Murphy's form has dropped off recently, so I fear, has Skalak's. I'll go as far as to say, that what exactly has Skalak done since he has been at the club? I know he scored that wonder goal against QPR, and another really good one at Charlton in the run in at the end of last season, but not a lot else I fear.

True that his set piece delivery is pretty good, and he knows how to take a corner, but so often when playing on the left wing, rather than take on the full back, he turns inside on to his favoured right foot, rather than getting to the bye line and crossing with his left.

LuaLua and Solly March of course will be missing through injury for a while, so that leaves only Manu. To be honest I would have liked to have seen him given a start yesterday. I certainly think he has earned it from his recent performances in the cup. If nothing else he offers raw pace, which is something that the team lacks, he is more direct, and also I think, offers more of a goal threat.
 


nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003
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Yes . . . and no. Whilst I agree that Murphy's form has dropped off recently, so I fear, has Skalak's. I'll go as far as to say, that what exactly has Skalak done since he has been at the club? I know he scored that wonder goal against QPR, and another really good one at Charlton in the run in at the end of last season, but not a lot else I fear.

After joining last season, he got 6 assists (2nd highest in squad for the entire 15/16 season) in addition to those 2 goals. All in only 8 starts plus 8 from bench.

Slow start to this year and yesterday was his first direct assist, although he did also provide the delivery for our 2nd against Forrest when Hemed nodded it down for Murray to finish.

He'll never beat a man; he's all about dead ball delivery and crosses, with the occasional wonder goal thrown in. That style of play didn't do Beckham any harm throughout his career.
 






Bigtomfu

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Jul 25, 2003
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Yes . . . and no. Whilst I agree that Murphy's form has dropped off recently, so I fear, has Skalak's. I'll go as far as to say, that what exactly has Skalak done since he has been at the club? I know he scored that wonder goal against QPR, and another really good one at Charlton in the run in at the end of last season, but not a lot else I fear.

True that his set piece delivery is pretty good, and he knows how to take a corner, but so often when playing on the left wing, rather than take on the full back, he turns inside on to his favoured right foot, rather than getting to the bye line and crossing with his left.

For me his performance yesterday showed he's clearly been working on several things; he did take on his man several times over on the left wing in the first half, beat him round the outside twice and seemed to have a better understanding with Bong.

You cannot under estimate what having a dead ball specialist in your team does for strikers and opposition defenders. Before the second goal I saw Murray tell Jiri exactly where he wanted it and Lo and behold - GOAL.

Defenders know he can put the ball on a six pence and therefore cannot rest on their laurels and must not only defend the man but also the ball. He had another in a similar position in the second half which I think Dunk or Duffy got on the end of and the quality of the ball is such that if neither gets a touch it also turns into a difficult decision for the keeper because they are almost always nearly on target to go in as well.

His fitness is improving too as I felt his pace was up a notch yesterday on recent performances.

Granted football is a game of opinions but right now I think CH knows what quality he possesses and that's why he's in over and above Murphy.
 


NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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After joining last season, he got 6 assists (2nd highest in squad for the entire 15/16 season) in addition to those 2 goals. All in only 8 starts plus 8 from bench.

Slow start to this year and yesterday was his first direct assist, although he did also provide the delivery for our 2nd against Forrest when Hemed nodded it down for Murray to finish.

He'll never beat a man; he's all about dead ball delivery and crosses, with the occasional wonder goal thrown in. That style of play didn't do Beckham any harm throughout his career.


Jamie got 6 goals and 4 or 5 assists last year.......................................They were in the early part of the season mostly. They tailed off, that's why he lost his place to Skalak. His free kicks and corners give us options at set pieces but for me beyond that he offers not much more. Really nice bloke apparently though and works so hard in training

Chris likes Jamie a lot as well though, I know this for sure because he has told me so but when he wasn't doing the business and creating goals in the latter part of last season so he lost his place in the team. That's how it should be and much as I like Jamie, there is no room for sentiment in football.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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You cannot under estimate what having a dead ball specialist in your team does for strikers and opposition defenders. Before the second goal I saw Murray tell Jiri exactly where he wanted it and Lo and behold - GOAL.

Absolutely. He'll get a few wrong, which is why he's playing for us, but not many. Hard, fast, curling into the target area and, pleasingly, not straight onto the head of the first defender.

Defenders know he can put the ball on a six pence and therefore cannot rest on their laurels and must not only defend the man but also the ball. He had another in a similar position in the second half which I think Dunk or Duffy got on the end of and the quality of the ball is such that if neither gets a touch it also turns into a difficult decision for the keeper because they are almost always nearly on target to go in as well..

Duffy put it over with, annoyingly, Dunk unmarked behind him. Didn't matter in the end...
 








Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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After joining last season, he got 6 assists (2nd highest in squad for the entire 15/16 season) in addition to those 2 goals. All in only 8 starts plus 8 from bench.

Slow start to this year and yesterday was his first direct assist, although he did also provide the delivery for our 2nd against Forrest when Hemed nodded it down for Murray to finish.

He'll never beat a man; he's all about dead ball delivery and crosses, with the occasional wonder goal thrown in. That style of play didn't do Beckham any harm throughout his career.

And because he finds it difficult to beat his man, I think he may be more effective in a more central role, or perhaps wide on the right, he is after all primarily right footed.

I take your point about David Beckham, but he wasn't a winger either.
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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For me his performance yesterday showed he's clearly been working on several things; he did take on his man several times over on the left wing in the first half, beat him round the outside twice and seemed to have a better understanding with Bong.

You cannot under estimate what having a dead ball specialist in your team does for strikers and opposition defenders. Before the second goal I saw Murray tell Jiri exactly where he wanted it and Lo and behold - GOAL.

Defenders know he can put the ball on a six pence and therefore cannot rest on their laurels and must not only defend the man but also the ball. He had another in a similar position in the second half which I think Dunk or Duffy got on the end of and the quality of the ball is such that if neither gets a touch it also turns into a difficult decision for the keeper because they are almost always nearly on target to go in as well.

His fitness is improving too as I felt his pace was up a notch yesterday on recent performances.

Granted football is a game of opinions but right now I think CH knows what quality he possesses and that's why he's in over and above Murphy.

Great summary, that's how I saw his performance yesterday, particularly linking up with Bong. We know what he can do with a dead ball, and with Murray, Hemed, Dunk and Duffy lurking we'll be a huge threat from set pieces. His FK for Murray's header yesterday was wicked - I sit right behind where he whipped it in from - low, hard and fizzing. Nightmare for a defender, meat and drink to Murray.
 


Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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Thought he had a good game yesterday, it seemed to click into place for him and bits of his game that have suffered early in the season seemed to return. His crossing was back on the money and he had a better understanding with Bong.

When he's on form his deliveries are unplayable, he could've easily had another two assists because of his final ball accuracy - Murray sidefoot and the Duffy/Dunk header. It's all very well being able to go past a defender, but if there's no chance created at the end of it what's the point?
 


Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
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When Skalak doesn't produce an assist or score a goal, he's going to attract criticism.

It's a shame but I doubt it will ever change. Unfortunately a lot of people only notice a winger when they beat a man or make something happen. It's the same with strikers to be fair. I thought Hemed's team play was excellent yesterday.
 


Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
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Southwick
I love Chris, but can someone please tell me what he sees in Skalak???

Yes, he scored a couple of good goals last season . But really all he does is look for the foul, or roll around pretending to be injured after being tackled! I find him really pathetic and the bloke is just plain irritating.

I really think we should look to offload him in Jan. R Van La Parra would have been a better option at a 1/3 of the price!

Are you starting to see what CH sees in him now?
 






Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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He was top quality today. Edna made a good post a few weeks back, which indicated that Jiri's subdued start to the season was probably explained by the Euros, the lack of a break, late starting pre-season, etc. He's been right back on it for the last few games. Bong too. They worked well together today.
 


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