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[Brighton] MPs: Hands free mobiles should be banned.
- Thread starter bomber130
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Acknowledging that confirmation bias, often means you see, what you want to see. I am not sure that the statistics below support the conclusion. However long term decline, corresponds to better vehicle safety design, so it is possible, that the problem is being masked here. I also accept that ANY fatalities that are preventable are one too many.
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7615
My personal bug bear is not hands free technology, but the people who can clearly afford to invest in it, but choose not to, or are too lazy to work out, how to use it. When you see people driving along in a £30K + car, clasping their mobile, it really grates with me.
https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-7615
My personal bug bear is not hands free technology, but the people who can clearly afford to invest in it, but choose not to, or are too lazy to work out, how to use it. When you see people driving along in a £30K + car, clasping their mobile, it really grates with me.
DumLum
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Science: Global warming is real.
The Majority of under 60s: Yes. Listen to science or you are an idiot.
Science: Having a handsfree conversation on your mobile is dangerous.
The Majority of under 60s: What nonsense.
DumLum
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You can't pick up on the other persons body language so you have to concentrate on the conversation a lot more.
I don't think this is where the push will come from in the next few years. The technology in cars, will soon be able to provide multiple indicators to your insurers, if you have been driving "carelessly", when involved in an accident and I think they will move rapidly to limit their exposure. The slap on the wrist from the courts/police is nothing compared to a full on personal injury claim.
Good point. I imagine that if the insurers find a way to check if you were on your mobile at he time of the crash, they will be all over it - and save themselves a fortune by being able to reject claims. All those outgoings saved should lead to lower premiums for the rest of us ....................................
.................... oh.
Technohead
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I guess the biggest difference is that a car passenger can see what's going on in and outside the vehicle, so knows when the driver needs to concentrate (i.e. when to shut up). If you're on the phone to someone banging their gums, they probably won't know if you're stuck in traffic, driving down a clear motorway or hooning around country lanes...
Try telling that to my mother-in-law. Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit non stop no matter what the situation.
These days many people can’t function unless there using their mobile phones, you see people get in the car after the super market run and initiate a call, no doubt to bother someone with a totally inanely dull story or that they will be with that person in 5 minutes!
Ive been on hands free from Falmer all the way to Shoreham and it dawned on me only when I arrived at the destination (Red Lion) that I didn’t recall going through the tunnel.
Ive been on hands free from Falmer all the way to Shoreham and it dawned on me only when I arrived at the destination (Red Lion) that I didn’t recall going through the tunnel.
Dick Swiveller
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The only thing I miss about my Windows phone is the fight between Cortana and my car to read out text messages. Cortana always won but it didn't stop the car reading it out as well. Until the day I asked Cortana why she wasn't as good as Siri, she said "Ouch" and then never spoke to me again.
Doonhamer7
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- Jun 17, 2016
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This will all be about cultural change - it won’t stop everyone but it will stop some and if this means one less death then it will have been worth it. I would imagine if you had an accident your insurance company would be looking at whether you were on phone and if so then probably not pay out. Most large companies now all phone use including hands free phone use when on company business or in a company vehicle.
I have removed all my German friends from my contacts. I now have a Hans free phone.
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Think it's a good idea. There is no reason whatsoever to be using a mobile whilst driving, unless it's an emergency.
Thunder Bolt
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Will taxi drivers be exempt when listening to their radio calls, or emergency vehicles?
Not even when you want to talk to you Italian nephew about Brexit?
Establishing you were on a mobile is technically not that difficult, but legally much harder for insurers to do and may not be a priority for policing. Establishing whether you were driving within the speed limits, will be very simple in all new cars and this is going to be where the biggest impact will be felt.
Cars will mostly be self driving within a few years so this will cease to be an issue. Tesla are already planning to stream Netflix whilst driving on Autopilot.
If using phones (and even watching Netflix) is going to be acceptable in self-driving cars, will I be allowed to get my new self-driving car to drive me out to a nice country pub on a summer evening and drive me home after a few pints?
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There are already systems that are in use to identify 3G / 4G signals and determine if a mobile phone in an approaching vehicle is receiving / transmitting. However they are of slightly limited value as of course they cannot determine WHO in the car is using the phone (and as such have only to date been used to control warning signs as a 'reminder' to the car user - much like the angry face signs when you pass a sensor doing 33mph in a 30 zone).
When they are fully autonomous, probably.