[Football] More possible FFP issues for Chelsea?

[highflyer]

As a Brighton fan, I wouldn't care. Although I would feel sorry for the fans of those clubs (in it) who didn't want it.

In principle I agree 100%. Let them sod off and do their own thing, so we can all get on with running a proper, competitive, passionate, league.

But I always worry sligtly about unintended consequences (no idea what they might be in this case).

 

[Justice]

Souness is an absolute plum. He clearly has some dislike of us and keeps trotting nonsense out. What is his problem?

Is he homophobic? He struggles to say Brighton. Criticising Bloom for hiring RDZ was a classic

 

[jcdenton08]

Souness is an absolute dinosaur, stuck in the past. He does little if any research and just spews shite without any fact checking. Typical “boys club” hire, knows nothing outside of the “Big Four”

 

[Justice]

Were we not originally after that Lesley Ugochukwu as a Caicedo replacement before they decided to sign him and Caicedo? Lesley is about 4th choice in their pecking order now. Wonder if we’d query about taking him off their hands at a cut price.

Chelsea want top dollar for everyone judging by the Broja deal.

 

[Guinness Boy]

This, I'm afraid, remains to be tested. they've made the rght noises. Which is good. But are yet to properly nail a really powerful club - one, say, owned by a petro-state or a well connected American Billionaire.

I'm hearing increasingly sympathetic noises from the media towards the newly rich clubs. I think it was David Orstein (but might be wrong) speaking to a set of punters on BBC the other day and (almost) everyone agreeing how jolly unfair it was that 'ambitious' clubs like Newcastle are being restrained from spending when there is next to no chance of them going bunkrupt Which is, apparently, 'what the FFP rules are there for'. I don't know if this is just certain people understanding where their interests lie (more money in the game = ever higher salaries and trebles all round, ching ching). Or whether there are some more 'direct' conversations going on to ensure that everyone is gradually brought round to expressing the view that restricting Saudi Arabia from spending whatever it wants, to help divert attention from their murdering ways, is somehow 'bad for the game we love'. But I definitely sense a concerted campaign coming to push back and make sure that the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Newcastle are able to get back to their mega-spending ways. And yes, I suspect that will involve a return of the '(Saudi based?) Superleage idea at some stage. When they've lined up their ducks so as not to get ambushed by these annoying 'poor people that actually go to soccer games' again.

Personally I'm not optimistic. They are rich. We are stupid. And money = power = getting what you want in the end.

But by god, I hope I'm wrong!

Martin Samuels is spitting out exactly this line on an almost daily basis. Saudis have a few shills in their pocket it seems.

 

[Wozza]

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Chelsea want top dollar for everyone judging by the Broja deal.

They reputedly wanted £50m for Broja but football collectively guffawed at that notion. So they’ve loaned him to Fulham. According to ESPN there will be no loan fee if he plays 10 matches this season. So what Chelsea want and what they’ll get are two very different things.

 

[Zeus]

Martin Samuels is spitting out exactly this line on an almost daily basis. Saudis have a few shills in their pocket it seems.

Indeed. I've got to be honest, but I was disappointed with what I heard from @El Presidente on Talksport Sunday morning, and the sympathy he expressed with the Geordie journalist who wants his murderous owners to be able to spend away and buy the glory. Without these controls what stops every club being bought up by Middle East and American multi billionaires fueling yet more insane spending and further unsustainable inflation? This is what puts clubs at risk. All I can see from the controls coming in are some sensible restriction coming into transfer fees, and more sensible wage structures as FFP finally looks like it has the potential to take hold. We are the epitome of showing there is another way to compete. There definitely seems to be a media agenda to rip up the rule book and take us back to square one. I much prefer a world where a new Ambromovich cant fund that sort of glory with filthy money again, and all the revenue riches are hardly helping the likes of Man Utd.

 

[Zeus]

I hope Moises is looking for a new agent. He has been totally mugged off, but money seemed the be all and end all for him, which might be why his performances have become so average.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I hope Moises is looking for a new agent. He has been totally mugged off, but money seemed the be all and end all for him, which might be why his performances have become so average.

He has absolutely trashed his reputation for the moment. Moises has gone from being one of the best DMs in the EPL to a figure of fun and the poster boy for the dysfunction at Chelsea. On the one hand it is funny to see some karma dished out but on the other it is sad to see such a talent fade away.

 

[Happy Exile]

they certainly assumed European, probably Champions League revenue for possibly this and definitely next season.

There were reports around the time of the Potter sacking that when Boehly was told that Chelsea have played in Europe every season since 1998 or whatever it is he took that as a guaranteed entry and revenue and planned accordingly, not something reliant on merit and league performances, and that he was absolutely staggered when he found out.

 

[Mellotron]

This is marvelous stuff. It's the reason I want Liverpool to win the FLC and Villa to knock them out the FAC, no Europe again and they are in so much shit.
This was discussed a lot on here at the time that these 8 year contracts were great at allowing the m to spend massive money v quickly but provided one fact was correct - that the players were actually up to it, that was the gamble, I'm sure they thought maybe one or max two wouldn't work out, but it's 6 or 7, it's wonderful.

Had plenty of arguments with Chelsea fans at the time who were CONVINCED Boehly was some kind of visionary genius.

The potential risks seemed so obvious to me, and so HIGH.

Well, here we are.

 

[Wozza]

Had plenty of arguments with Chelsea fans at the time who were CONVINCED Boehly was some kind of visionary genius.

The potential risks seemed so obvious to me, and so HIGH.

Well, here we are.

 

[chickens]

This date is going in the diary.

 

[aftershavedave]

Here's a question, maybe not for you @Wozza but you do seem up on this stuff. If revenues are fairly available (?) and costs must be too (eg the cost of potter in and out) isn't it "fairly" straightforward to see if they are miles outside FFP? It's just a question...

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Is he homophobic? He struggles to say Brighton. Criticising Bloom for hiring RDZ was a classic

Yes, one of my favourite moments in broadcasting. A classic as you say, even that early it was destined to be idiotic.

 

[The Fits]

Call me a cynic but if Chelsea need to find 100 million before the end of June they will. They didn't struggle to sell players last summer, and that included three rivals bailing them out with big offers.
Wouldn't surprise me if Lukaku to Saudi covers most of it

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Wasn't the long term for those players just become really really rich?

 

[Triggaaar]

Martin Samuels is spitting out exactly this line on an almost daily basis. Saudis have a few shills in their pocket it seems.

When I start supporting Newcastle's right to spend big, I'm buying a sports car. No particular reason, just saying.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Ben Jacobs is an absolute clown. Barely a Pound Shop Romano.