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[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.
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jamie the seagull
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- Jul 27, 2011
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His departure was filmed with Directv Ecuador. Go to (1:18) for interview with Moises. Interviewer confirms he was on a flight to Madrid.
https://twitter.com/directvecuador/status/1352815803129876484?s=21
https://twitter.com/directvecuador/status/1352815803129876484?s=21
jamie the seagull
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- Jul 27, 2011
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Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I don't think that is his account.
Do you know the correct one?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Can't find one, but I would imagine it would have more than 700 odd followers.
Moises Caicedo?
He’s on Instagram but don’t think he is on Twitter.
https://instagram.com/moises_caicedo55?igshid=1kqrkccu29ck1
He’s on Instagram but don’t think he is on Twitter.
https://instagram.com/moises_caicedo55?igshid=1kqrkccu29ck1
SeagullinExile
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Good video, unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish!
Any translators out there??
Change at Barnham
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I don't speak Spanish but I heard "Brighton and Hove Albion" mentioned a couple of times.
It is clearly a huge story in Ecuador.
Not much that we don't already know. He's happy to be on his way, fee is 6 million dollars, former club have 20% sell-on.
mxs_harrow
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Article about him in New York Times
I can't read the article, but possibly someone else could copy and paste it into this thread. Sure to be accurate and insightful. I've been using the NYT app since the US election, but haven't subscribed. No doubt better value than the Argus....
I can't read the article, but possibly someone else could copy and paste it into this thread. Sure to be accurate and insightful. I've been using the NYT app since the US election, but haven't subscribed. No doubt better value than the Argus....
Emotional goodbyes with his parents
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKZkJ0ThWGR/?igshid=268t8e8tuucj
....and from the local press
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKZkJ0ThWGR/?igshid=268t8e8tuucj
....and from the local press
mxs_harrow
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Found it - can't paste contents without subscription
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/sports/soccer/transfer-market-moises-caicedo.html
WE would have done our due diligence with agents ( possibly multiple) as Tony Bloom wasn't born yesterday....
this is an extract:-
"Most of Europe’s clubs received the same feedback when they started to delve a little deeper into Caicedo’s situation: It was not immediately clear, they were told, precisely who was representing the player, who had the power to agree to terms on his behalf. “Too many agents involved,” as the note sent to one recruitment department read.
A transfer deal should, on the surface, be a straightforward thing. The buying club should — strictly speaking — contact the selling team, establish a price, and then contact the player’s agent in order to work out the personal terms.
If that is a little naïve, then the pragmatic alternative — contact the agents first, find out if the player is interested, ask what a deal would cost, and then present the selling club with a fait accompli before haggling over price — might be more cynical, but it is not substantially more complicated.
The reality, though, is much messier. Teams frequently give an agent a mandate to sell their own player, in order to retain a degree of negotiating power. Often, different agents will be given mandates to sell players to different countries: One will do the deal if an Italian team is interested, someone else if it is a Spanish club. Those mandates can then be traded and sold between agents.
As soon as a talented player emerges, a suite of agents will typically descend on him, offering exclusive access to a particular team or league, or simply an ability to negotiate a better deal. Sometimes players sign multiple agreements with multiple agents, based on nothing more than promises.
Most of those involved in recruitment accept this as the way things are, and the way they have always been across the world, though many find it especially difficult to untangle deals to take players out of South America. The sporting director at one major European club, though, believes the problem has become much worse since FIFA moved to deregulate agents in 2015. “Now, you can basically do anything you like,” said the director, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to address the issue publicly.
It is precisely that sort of free-for-all that engulfed Caicedo. For much of his nascent professional career, he has been represented by Kancha, an Ecuadorean agency with a roster of young players and a cohort at Independiente. As clubs’ interest in him grew, though, so too did interest from agencies, eager to profit not only from his promise but also from teams’ comparative inexperience in buying players in Ecuador.
Members of the Caicedo’s family — he is the youngest of 10 siblings, and has 25 nephews — were inundated with offers from agents seeking a mandate to sell him. Those close to the dealings, though not authorized to speak on the record about private business arrangements, said they believed that relatives had reached agreements with two of them: a German-based firm, PSM Proformance, and a company in Argentina. PSM Proformance did not respond to a request for comment.
All of a sudden, there were three agencies — including Kancha — claiming to speak for Caicedo, to have the power to do a deal. Independiente, the club that had nurtured him, was effectively rendered irrelevant in the sale: It will receive roughly the same fee regardless of which agent strikes a deal, and is expected to ask for a clause that will bring the club a 30 percent cut on any future transfer, too.
But if his club is unaffected, the same cannot necessarily be said of Caicedo. With multiple agents not only touting him across Europe but also peppering the news media, in Ecuador and farther afield, with tips about his potential destination, many clubs that had been enticed by Caicedo’s enormous promise chose to walk away. Manchester United and Milan both decided not to become embroiled in a situation they deemed too knotty to unravel.
Others stayed the course. Brighton — currently considered his most likely destination — had the advantage of a pre-existing relationship with Independiente and Kancha, having signed a player from both in 2018. Caicedo will get his move: His talent, ultimately, guarantees that.
What concerns those who have watched him flourish over the last couple of years is whether it will be the right move, for the right reasons. Caicedo’s rise, so far, has been unexpectedly, almost impossibly smooth. Being exposed to the perils of the transfer market, though, means the road ahead is littered with obstacles. He has been found. The risk now is that he might yet be lost."
albionalex
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Difficult to understand with the masks but all I could make out was that he and his family got a good feeling from the club (us) and it has been his dream to play in the Premier League.
Let’s not lose track of what a potentially great player we’re getting:
https://youtu.be/PSvnIledbtc
So crucial we don’t get relegated as we’re building a very exciting team under this manager. A group of players that suit his style of play.
Moder, Biss. MacAllister, Lamptey, Moises, Webster, Alzate, Connolly, White, Sanchez, along with our old boys Dunk and Solly.
I genuinely believe our squad has huge potential.
https://youtu.be/PSvnIledbtc
So crucial we don’t get relegated as we’re building a very exciting team under this manager. A group of players that suit his style of play.
Moder, Biss. MacAllister, Lamptey, Moises, Webster, Alzate, Connolly, White, Sanchez, along with our old boys Dunk and Solly.
I genuinely believe our squad has huge potential.
Don Tmatter
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He’s Bissouma’s replacement isn’t he?
Is he?
Not Andy Naylor
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Can we have that pink shirt as our away kit next season?
We are so close to something special.
All it would take would be someone like Connolly to hit a hot patch and show the goal scoring potential he showed in PL2 allied to our defenders cutting out the awful individual mistakes and with a bit of luck, we’d not be mentioning relegation battles for the foreseeable future.