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[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.



Uh_huh_him

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Interesting view from Equador media, providing it translates for you.....
Their view on his wage quintupling, is based on Spotrac.
I think Spotrac mainly deals with contract values for American football, where players are much more open about their wages.
It isn't the same in Europe.

I suspect they have an algorithm based on club's financial statements and player's age/experience etc.
They also tend to amend their data quite frequently.
Shortly after Lallana and Welbeck signed, people were using this site to claim the pair were earning £110k/£100k pw.
The latest listing has Welbeck on £55k and Lallana on £90k. This estimate is still bollocks.
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Great news. It makes me more confident he'll still be here next season otherwise why sign a deal that means we can charge absolute top dollar for the next four summers? If a monumental bid comes in then of course he'll be gone but it'll have to be monumental, not just merely huge.

The question now is Ally Mac. This summer is the time to sell for maximum money as his contract is only to 2025. Is Caicedo signing for four more years a sign that the club are going to sell Ally Mac or dare we dream that we'll get another season from them both?
 


trueblue

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It is unreasonable. I’m with Simon Jordan on this. Rice is overrated and will prove it to us tomorrow.



I believe that Caicedo is the next level from to Rice.

Caicedo could well be better in the long term. He hasn’t proved it yet and doesn’t have equivalent experience so he isn’t worth more yet. One game against Rice is not going to change that.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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Great news. It makes me more confident he'll still be here next season otherwise why sign a deal that means we can charge absolute top dollar for the next four summers? If a monumental bid comes in then of course he'll be gone but it'll have to be monumental, not just merely huge.

The question now is Ally Mac. This summer is the time to sell for maximum money as his contract is only to 2025. Is Caicedo signing for four more years a sign that the club are going to sell Ally Mac or dare we dream that we'll get another season from them both?
We also have a 1 year option on him so 2026
 






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The only possible negative to this is that as others have said
maybe there’s still a player there who wants to leave, but more bad advice from his agents has meant accepting the money in a new contract (because they’re so money hungry) but overall it hurts his chances of leaving & will upset the player in the long run.

Maybe something along those lines could be true but I would say even the most naive player would see a contract extension as a backward step if they were chasing a move…

Hopefully it’s many more years of Caicedo!!
I’ve said this in a few other threads, but it’s obvious that our squad will need to be bigger and stronger if we get into Europe than if we don’t. I would suspect keeping Moises in the summer will be down to two things. Firstly where we finish / if we win the cup this season, and secondly “a big club” (ok, let’s call them Chelsea) not offering absolutely ridiculous money that would buy three other decent players.
 


Icy Gull

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It seems a VERY long contract extension if it's purely to bump the price up £20m and give him a short term wage boost.

In the case of the most frequently linked English suitor, Arsenal supposedly would like Rice and Caicedo too. Rice is being widely touted as an £80m player, which doesn't seem unreasonable. He's closer to his prime, has almost 200 PL games under his belt, European experience and is a lynchpin of a national team that's among the best in the world right now.

There's not much to suggest Albion would settle for much less than £80m for Caicedo so, at this point, he just doesn't look good value at that price compared to Rice or players that might be available from abroad. I think It's difficult to see how the figures stack up for an immediate move at the price Albion can now demand. Months of speculation is the only thing that's guaranteed, I imagine.
Whenever I’ve watched Rice I think “what’s all the fuss about?”

No doubt I’ll have my eyes opened this afternoon having said that :lolol:

I think Caicedo is a better player than Rice already
 










Hugo Rune

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Whenever I’ve watched Rice I think “what’s all the fuss about?”

No doubt I’ll have my eyes opened this afternoon having said that :lolol:

I think Caicedo is a better player than Rice already
I decided to watch some Rice showreels.

He really is a very good defensive midfielder but his skill set is more central defender than No.10 if you had to move him into another position. His tackling and positioning is top level and his pace and speed is very good (Caicedo is faster). In addition he appears to have a good shot on him but he just reminds me more of Dunk than Caicedo.

What he can’t do is the De Bruyne passes Caicedo pulls out the bag. The example for me is the assist for Mitoma against Everton, Rice would never be able to pull that off. Rice has a lofted ball he plays to either wing (Dunk style) but that’s about it. I’ve not seen him thread the ball through the lines on the deck to set-up an attack like Caicedo can.

I’m going to enjoy comparing them today. I think Caicedo is world class, I don’t think Rice is or ever will be. Caicedo has that X factor.
 






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I’ve said this in a few other threads, but it’s obvious that our squad will need to be bigger and stronger if we get into Europe than if we don’t. I would suspect keeping Moises in the summer will be down to two things. Firstly where we finish / if we win the cup this season, and secondly “a big club” (ok, let’s call them Chelsea) not offering absolutely ridiculous money that would buy three other decent players.
Lose today and according to half of this place we'll be staring down the barrel of relegation.
While the other half are pooping themselves over the mighty Grimsby.
 


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I am fairly certain that Alexis will go this summer, but we really want Moises to stay next season. One major sale every season means the process works.
Yeh, but we’ve sold about 140m worth of players already this season and also got compensation of around 25m for Potter, Winstanley and the coaches Potter took with him. We can easily afford a season without having to make a significant sale.
 


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I think this is 1000 times better than the player 'seeing out' his contract and going for nothing, which was the likely scenario with Tossard.

And doesn't this mean he's our first £70+ million pound signing? Yes, yes, I think it does :lolol:
“You’ve got to know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em” 😁

The Club offering Moises a new contract, says a lot about our development trajectory to me. It suggests that we can;

(A) afford/be prepared to offer our (Big-6) target players a competitive contract in order to encourage them to stay which suggests to me that Bloom and RDZ are on the same page with regard to our ambitions as a club and

(B) that in Moises agreeing to sign a contract (that by all accounts will perhaps make even the Big 6/7 think twice about the expenditure in the immediate future) sends a message to other young ambitious players in our squad that Brighton not only is a gateway to the EPL Big 6 but is a Club that is committed to challenging them for top spots.

We are carving out a pretty unique niche for ourselves in the PL imo - that we are a destination club not only for young players wanting to break into the EPL and who maybe see Brighton as a stepping stone to a European/Champions League club but also for our young players (already arguably at Big 6 level) yet are still too young/inexperienced to get regular 90mins with those clubs, Brighton can maybe offer the sort of development and support structure than they might not otherwise have by going to a Big 6 as soon as they come knocking.
 
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Hugo Rune

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I have no idea how I missed that.

Until it's dashed on the rocks of reality I'm going to dream the dream of Ally Mac and Caicedo lining up for the Albion together on the first match day of September 2023.
Nice dream. We might have to be playing in the Champions League later that month for that to happen though!
 






Eric the meek

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With the benefit of hindsight, we should perhaps have spotted that after combing the world for top talent, and then waiting patiently for it to develop to the required standard, hanging on to it is the next logical stage in the long term plan.

This may be what is now happening. Players like Caicedo and MacAllister are key to our future.
 


Bold Seagull

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Great news. It makes me more confident he'll still be here next season otherwise why sign a deal that means we can charge absolute top dollar for the next four summers? If a monumental bid comes in then of course he'll be gone but it'll have to be monumental, not just merely huge.

The question now is Ally Mac. This summer is the time to sell for maximum money as his contract is only to 2025. Is Caicedo signing for four more years a sign that the club are going to sell Ally Mac or dare we dream that we'll get another season from them both?
Exactly - no way he’d sign this deal if he wanted out in the summer, he’s here for another season at least.
 


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