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[Albion] Moises Caicedo - New contract signed until summer 2027 with 1 year extra option.



matski_98

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Apr 16, 2012
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I keep seeing various pundits trot out the "well look at what happened to Southampton" line as if they expect us to sell everything and not replace any players.

I didn't follow Southampton's comings and goings particularly closely at the time, but were they the sort of club to roll over every time Liverpool came knocking or did they play hard ball?
 




Insel affe

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Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
I keep seeing various pundits trot out the "well look at what happened to Southampton" line as if they expect us to sell everything and not replace any players.

I didn't follow Southampton's comings and goings particularly closely at the time, but were they the sort of club to roll over every time Liverpool came knocking or did they play hard ball?
Literally took the first offer
 


Thunder Bolt

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I keep seeing various pundits trot out the "well look at what happened to Southampton" line as if they expect us to sell everything and not replace any players.

I didn't follow Southampton's comings and goings particularly closely at the time, but were they the sort of club to roll over every time Liverpool came knocking or did they play hard ball?
It wasn't just Liverpool. Arsenal raided them as well.

Southampton's problem wasn't selling players, it was several changes of ownership.
 




Sea Cider

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Dec 27, 2012
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Naylor's previous tweets were so convincing, I suspect they came right from the top.

So too, I suspect does the tweet above. It's Tony taking the piss out of Arsenal.
Arsenal are being played like a fiddle, and they still don't realise it.

'We'll be coming back for him in the summer'. Excellent - you're in love with Caicedo and will pay anything.
More of the same then. Either that or Tony will rinse you. Thanks for the heads up!
Sadly, even if we appear to 'rinse' them, Caicedo is SO good that even £100m will eventually see Arsenal getting the better deal (i.e. they could easily get 10 years of trophies from him)

Desperately hoping he goes to Europe this summer!
 






Eric the meek

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Sadly, even if we appear to 'rinse' them, Caicedo is SO good that even £100m will eventually see Arsenal getting the better deal (i.e. they could easily get 10 years of trophies from him)

Desperately hoping he goes to Europe this summer!
While you're right, remember that many of our recent departures have been replaced with an upgrade. Trossard - Mitoma. Potter - RDZ. Burn - Cucurella. Cucurella - Estupinan.

It won't be at all easy to upgrade on Caicedo of course. But I took note of what one Sweden-based journo said about Ayari - he's a midfield metronome and dominates the midfield. At age 19. Watch this space.
 










peterward

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Naylor's previous tweets were so convincing, I suspect they came right from the top.

So too, I suspect does the tweet above. It's Tony taking the piss out of Arsenal.
Arsenal are being played like a fiddle, and they still don't realise it.

'We'll be coming back for him in the summer'. Excellent - you're in love with Caicedo and will pay anything.
More of the same then. Either that or Tony will rinse you. Thanks for the heads up!
Metro reporting similar to what Naylor suggests.


Reading between lines, it seems Chelsea made a first bid of 55M (fair enough), were told in no uncertain terms by Bloom, this isnt a negotiating tactic, hes not for sale in this window under any circumstance so dont try another bid, and they didnt.

Arsenal then made a bid of 60M (fair enough), were told in no uncertain terms by Bloom, this isnt a negotiating tactic, hes not for sale in this window under any circumstance so dont try another bid, so they then conspired with Caicedos new Agents, no doubt for a fat agents fee, and ignored Bloom, went back in again and at the same time got Caicedo/agents to try the 'refuse to play' tactics, forced move with pleas on social media campaign and using Fabrizi Romano (no doubt led by Arsenal in full cahoots with the new Agents).

Dirty underhand and shabby from Arsenal, pains to say it, but Chelseas conduct in this saga is clearly better, and I'd suggest their respect of Blooms wishes makes them clear favourite come the summer or beyond........

Edu and Agents are Idiots for thinking they could pressure Bloom by such underhand methods. There will only ever be one winner.
 














Icy Gull

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Anyone outside the training ground to see if our boy turns up today?
If he was expect a photo shoot from the club by the end of the day

Edit, seems he has, wooo hoo, GO Moises!
 


Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Metro reporting similar to what Naylor suggests.


Reading between lines, it seems Chelsea made a first bid of 55M (fair enough), were told in no uncertain terms by Bloom, this isnt a negotiating tactic, hes not for sale in this window under any circumstance so dont try another bid, and they didnt.

Arsenal then made a bid of 60M (fair enough), were told in no uncertain terms by Bloom, this isnt a negotiating tactic, hes not for sale in this window under any circumstance so dont try another bid, so they then conspired with Caicedos new Agents, no doubt for a fat agents fee, and ignored Bloom, went back in again and at the same time got Caicedo/agents to try the 'refuse to play' tactics, forced move with pleas on social media campaign and using Fabrizi Romano (no doubt led by Arsenal in full cahoots with the new Agents).

Dirty underhand and shabby from Arsenal, pains to say it, but Chelseas conduct in this saga is clearly better, and I'd suggest their respect of Blooms wishes makes them clear favourite come the summer or beyond........

Edu and Agents are Idiots for thinking they could pressure Bloom by such underhand methods. There will only ever be one winner.
I don’t think there is any evidence that Arsenal were orchestrating Caicedo’s actions. If there were then Bloom would report them to the PL. Isn’t this all just idle speculation by fans eager to exonerate the player. First blame the agent, now blame Arsenal.
 


A1X

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Confirms my thoughts that he’s largely a pawn in a game played out by his agents and Arsenal which fell through
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Confirms my thoughts that he’s largely a pawn in a game played out by his agents and Arsenal which fell through
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peterward

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I don’t think there is any evidence that Arsenal were orchestrating Caicedo’s actions. If there were then Bloom would report them to the PL. Isn’t this all just idle speculation by fans eager to exonerate the player. First blame the agent, now blame Arsenal.
Didnt for one second suggest Arsenal were directing Caicedo actions directly, hes a 21 year old kid who plays football.

The article and Naylor, suggest Arsenal were told in no uncertain terms, dont bid again after first bid, that its not a bargaining tactic, it simply isnt going to happen this window under any circumstance. They clearly ignored that request of club/Bloom if true (and its reported as true), and then the Caicedo social media stuff (my guess is that was agents) trying to force it along with a second Arsenal bid......... Yes its speculation to suggest that Caicedos new agents, with Caicedo as their only big player, were promised a nice fee if they could make it happen.... Id suggest the odds are they weren't doing it for free and nobody listened to Bloom/Club and instead tried to steam roller it through regardless.

Probably nothing in the rules to stop clubs making numerous bids when told not for sale under any circumstance, also nothing to stop a Players social media hankering to force move, were these 2 random seperate events of co-incidence?

If someone thinks so I suggest theyre in the minority
 


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