Moaning minnies (downgrade of moaning status)

[Helter]

Bozza always likes to change the goal posts when it suits him. It still doesn't change the fact he's wrong for starting the original thread.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Isn't that what happened - the referee made a decision according to what he believed to be the letter of the law at that instant, and the player dictated the outcome by scoring the penalty.

 

[tedebear]

Bozza always likes to change the goal posts when it suits him. It still doesn't change the fact he's wrong for starting the original thread.

Has daft for changing the title but isn't the first person to start a controversial thread!! Worng or not, he is just as entitled as anyone else to start a thread.

 

[Bozza]

Basically the referee should not have a hand in the outcome of a game. Effectively he/she should officiate to the letter of the law and the players should dictate the outcome of the game by their legal play.

But the officials did. They believed a handball had taken place inside the penalty area, and gave a penalty as a result. As the letter of the law dictates.

Any game that involves the use of human officiating is prone to human error. Every time a referee or linesman gives a decision, or even doesn't give a decision, it changes the path that game is going to take from that moment onward.

Today's was just a very obvious altering of events.

 

[Bozza]

Bozza always likes to change the goal posts when it suits him.

What on earth are you whittering on about now?

As I always do whatever it is, you'll have lots of examples. List 5 will you...

 

[tedebear]

Isn't that what happened - the referee made a decision according to what he believed to be the letter of the law at that instant, and the player dictated the outcome by scoring the penalty.

No the referee made an incorrect decision. That created a false result.

 

[tedebear]

But the officials did. They believed a handball had taken place inside the penalty area, and gave a penalty as a result. As the letter of the law dictates.

Any game that involves the use of human officiating is prone to human error. Every time a referee or linesman gives a decision, or even doesn't give a decision, it changes the path that game is going to take from that moment onward.

Today's was just a very obvious altering of events.

It was incorrect. It was incorrect of the ref to defer to the linesman, and it was an incorrect decision. It created a false result.

Correct decisions have no impact on a game. Incorrect decisions give favour to the wrong team. Its rather simple.

 

[clapham_gull]

But the officials did. They believed a handball had taken place inside the penalty area, and gave a penalty as a result. As the letter of the law dictates.

Any game that involves the use of human officiating is prone to human error. Every time a referee or linesman gives a decision, or even doesn't give a decision, it changes the path that game is going to take from that moment onward.

Today's was just a very obvious altering of events.

Is anyone who disagrees a "wanker" ?

 

[Helter]

Has daft for changing the title but isn't the first person to start a controversial thread!! Worng or not, he is just as entitled as anyone else to start a thread.

what? no wonder women are better of in the kitchen. can't fault them in that department.

 

[Meade's Ball]

Referees and their decisions are part and parcel of the game, and that's been long established. It burns to the core of any being to see some whistleblowing turd change the course of their team's journey, but that's what keeps us coming back, that drama, that uncertainty, that difference in decision, that sudden urge inside us to cannon an acidic cowpat into the face of a sometime simpleton.
It was a bloody ridiculous moment, but it's gone now and none of us can predict it's repeat for or against. The world oughtn't have it in for us because two turds did something stupid.
I rather more have a feeling that we're going to keep trying to play some cool football and i'll enjoy it while we do.

 

[Bozza]

It was incorrect. It was incorrect of the ref to defer to the linesman, and it was an incorrect decision. It created a false result.

Correct decisions have no impact on a game. Incorrect decisions give favour to the wrong team. Its rather simple.

Every sport with human officiating will be prone to errors of judgement that alter the path of the game. As a basketball referee you will have made numerous yourself.

The decision was incorrect but, based on judgement, the officials applied the letter of the law. Your point was that they hadn't applied the letter of the law.

Defering to the linesman is correct and entirely appropriate. That is what the linesman are there for.

 

[Bozza]

Is anyone who disagrees a "wanker" ?

Which bit?

 

[tedebear]

what? no wonder women are better of in the kitchen. can't fault them in that department.

Poor thing, you can't understand whats happening here? Big peoples conversation too much for you? Best you go to bed poppet...

 

[Poyetry In Motion]

ffs come on lets move on....it was an error yes it cost us 2 points but time to move on....the ref and linesman made an error like I said in a previous post some times they go in our favour others like today they didnt,,,thats life and football

a voice of reason amid the emotion charged nonsense

 

[clapham_gull]

Which bit?

What happened to a simple apology. It was obviously a misjudged post.

Carry on with the abuse if you like, it's your ball after all.

 

[tedebear]

Every sport with human officiating will be prone to errors of judgement that alter the path of the game. As a basketball referee you will have made numerous yourself.

The decision was incorrect but, based on judgement, the officials applied the letter of the law. Your point was that they hadn't applied the letter of the law.

Defering to the linesman is correct and entirely appropriate. That is what the linesman are there for.

Absolutely my point, if referees are not trained enough to provide the letter of the law at this level they shouldn't be there. I saw that today as a simple ruling. I agree that some rulings are debatable but that one I saw as simple and a mere 2 feet infront of the referee.

Defering to the linesman (who was not in a position to comment) proved he was not in enough experience for the position, and such has affected the outcome of the game.

 

[e77]

e77 and Bozza are the same person. He/she just switches user names.

I personally guarantee you that Bozza and I are different people!

 

[e77]

Why.....?

It was Bozza, who said you were a very good friend of his, some time ago. Have you fallen out with each other now....?

The fact that Bozza has decided to be provocative this afternoon/evening with his 'wind-up' and stupid posts, from his 'pub chair', then maybe it would be better to PM him, and ask him to grow up....? Bannings to posters are often the result of these 'provocative' posts.

Your veiled threat to me, for repeating what Bozza has said in the past is both unwelcome...........and unjustified.

To be fair, it wasn't veiled.

As it happens I agree with you that Bozza is being a tad provocative with this thread. However, I am sick to death with your constant winnings, especially having sat through 90 minutes today.

Please, with sugar and cherries on top, give it a rest.

 

[e77]

e77 you have no right to threaten Colin..its very silly like your crusade against me

If I knew who Colin was I might take your point.

You might not being aware I have also warned people off after having a go at you.

 

[Albumen]

It was f***ing shit decision but I said at the final whistle we should have finished them off. Barnes should have had at least two. We need to kill games off.
That said, we're 3 points clear with nearly a quarter of the season gone.