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[News] MMR, Vaccinate or not.







Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,361
Worthing
In My Opinion people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are idiots.
 


zeetha

Well-known member
Apr 11, 2011
1,363
If I had kids they would be vaccinated as soon as possible.

People forget that theres a reason why we have vaccinations - measles, mumps and rubella are not 'simple childhood illnesses'. They can cause long term physical damage (deafness, growth problems, lung problems etc) and can even kill.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,331
MMR is now inextricably linked with inducing autism. Proven to be false, probably, but there's patently huge numbers of parents out there not willing to take the risk.
 


The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
2,772
Lewisham
In My Opinion people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are idiots.

I saw a post on Facebook the other that I thought was quite funny, it was something like:

In school “why do I have to go to science lessons, they’re boring and I don’t need to know it anyway”
As an adult “vaccines are dangerous. Climate change isn’t real”
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
19,597
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If I had kids they would be vaccinated as soon as possible.

People forget that theres a reason why we have vaccinations - measles, mumps and rubella are not 'simple childhood illnesses'. They can cause long term physical damage (deafness, growth problems, lung problems etc) and can even kill.

My youngest son (now 17) had a very bad reaction to his first jabs. On doctors advice he didn't have anymore, but personally I do believe all kids should have it.
 


The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
2,772
Lewisham
MMR is now inextricably linked with inducing autism. Proven to be false, probably, but there's patently huge numbers of parents out there not willing to take the risk.


Which highlights the lack of knowledge and understanding of medicine. Vaccines do not cause autism, they do prevent horrible illnesses.
 


WilburySeagull

New member
Sep 2, 2017
495
Hove
MMR is now inextricably linked with inducing autism. Proven to be false, probably, but there's patently huge numbers of parents out there not willing to take the risk.
The alleged risk has comprehensively trashed by huge numbers of specialists in the field and needs to be challenged at every opportunity. Its the very definition of fake news. The large increases in measals cases is a very worrying fact. Many people do not realise just how dangerous it can be.
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
MMR is now inextricably linked with inducing autism. Proven to be false, probably, but there's patently huge numbers of parents out there not willing to take the risk.

There is no probably about it. It is false. Unfortunately, social media has played a part in spreading false fears.

For every one child who isn't vaccinated, they can infect 15 others. I survived measles when I was 6 but many children weren't so lucky. Vaccinations wiped out smallpox, and measles should not be a worry nowadays.
Many Mums think it is a childhood disease, but it can cause blindness, deafness, meningitis and encephalitis, and death.
Please please please vaccinate your children.
 


Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
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May 8, 2007
13,104
Toronto
In My Opinion people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are idiots.

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It’s people like your son who can’t have vaccines who need everyone who can have them to have them.

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The alleged risk has comprehensively trashed by huge numbers of specialists in the field and needs to be challenged at every opportunity. Its the very definition of fake news. The large increases in measals cases is a very worrying fact. Many people do not realise just how dangerous it can be.

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MMR is now inextricably linked with inducing autism. Proven to be false, probably, but there's patently huge numbers of parents out there not willing to take the risk.

You're an idiot.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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It’s people like your son who can’t have vaccines who need everyone who can have them to have them.

Indeed. The doctor reckoned because he had the first one he had most of the vaccine even if he did then have to spend two weeks in hospital as a result.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
In My Opinion people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are idiots.

We come from a time when vaccination was the norm as the diseases around then could be killers. In our day I think everyone was queuing up for ANY vaccination rather than face Polio, Measles, Scarlet Fever etc, they never truly all went away but thanks to vaccines they were marginalised to a huge degree.

Nowdays, an adverse reaction to a vaccine gets proportionately more coverage and scares people off and gets them questioning the reasons why we vaccinate in a negative way.



EDIT : Yes, of course I was vaccinated and so was my daughter.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
I and the then Mrs W decided to go private and get the kids single jabs but it was at the height of the scare. The problem could have been resolved, and probably still could, by also offering the single jabs on the NHS.
 


Barham's tash

Well-known member
Jun 8, 2013
3,728
Rayners Lane
Measles in particular is a very nasty ****er. You need 95% population vaccination to have effective control of the disease.

I heard this morning on Radio 4 that we’re getting dangerously close to that number.

Now whilst the world could do with a good cull theres also a good reason vaccinations exist.

Don’t be an idiot. Get your kids vaccinated.
 


Badger

NOT the Honey Badger
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May 8, 2007
13,104
Toronto
We come from a time when vaccination was the norm as the diseases around then could be killers. In our day I think everyone was queuing up for ANY vaccination rather than face Polio, Measles, Scarlet Fever etc, they never truly all went away but thanks to vaccines they were marginalised to a huge degree.

Nowdays, an adverse reaction to a vaccine gets proportionately more coverage and scares people off and gets them questioning the reasons why we vaccinate in a negative way.



EDIT : Yes, of course I was vaccinated and so was my daughter.

I guess this is part of the problem. People used to see what the diseases did to people and jumped at the opportunity to get vaccinated against them.

Nowadays most people don't have a clue what these diseases are.
 






Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
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Jul 6, 2003
19,865
There is no probably about it. It is false. Unfortunately, social media has played a part in spreading false fears.

For every one child who isn't vaccinated, they can infect 15 others. I survived measles when I was 6 but many children weren't so lucky. Vaccinations wiped out smallpox, and measles should not be a worry nowadays.
Many Mums think it is a childhood disease, but it can cause blindness, deafness, meningitis and encephalitis, and death.
Please please please vaccinate your children.

Absolutely. As you say, all it takes is a few posts on social media, a couple of YouTube videos and soon the whole thing becomes an auto-generating, self-referencing mess. And anyone who tries to bring science into it is dismissed as one of the 'sheeple'.

It's not just 'MMR jabs give you Autism' of course: Americans didn't land on the moon, the earth is flat, climate change is a myth, no planes hit the twin towers on 9/11, etc. It's one of the tragedies of our time that the internet has allowed the feeble-minded to flock together, encourage each other and achieve critical mass. The (re)rise of the Flat Earth theory is particularly depressing.

And yes my children had all their shots, and my grandson's had his first batch. He cried a bit, that was all.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
I had measles when I was about two. The doctor was so worried about me, she turned at our house at 11.00 at night, saying that I had a 50/50 chance of surviving.

Fortunately, I had no lasting effects from it but some people weren't so lucky. When I was a kid, people died or went blind from the disease, it's really not a minor disease.

If you have kids,don't be an idiot, get them vaccinated.
 


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