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I'd take umbrance too, but I'm a bit worried about getting overshadowed.
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MK DONS Supporters
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The Maharajah of Sydney
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I've corrected your spelling mistake.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Soul. The word is soul.
I did, and gillingham, do i get a prize?
pottert
New member
Might be a controversial viewpoint, and I certainly don't agree with the idea of franchising football clubs on the whole, but I think it's worked out quite well for both parties really.
A big bustling town has a club to support, kids will grow up there supporting their local team and going to games on a regular basis, which has to be better than the situation I imagine they had, where the extent of most kids' support for a team was buying a United/Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool kit and watching games on Sky.
And they're a club that have aspirations similar to our own. Though their progress has been slow in comparison to ours, theirs has been on a shoestring playing budget and they've gone about it in the right manner, spending within their means, giving young managers a go and bringing through young local players like Dele Alli and Brendan Galloway- who are both Premier League regulars despite being teenagers- as well as our own Sam Baldock of course. Who knows if those players would've even been picked up by a club had MK not existed.
And Wimbledon are probably doing better now than they would've been had they continued as Wimbledon- the club moving to MK just gave them a bit of extra time to start their new club, as I'm sure they would've gone bust and had to start again anyway. They've had another incredible journey in making their way back up this far and I'm sure they too are dreaming of repeating history and competing with the big boys again someday.
But yeah in response to the OP, they probably should drop the Dons in fairness. I think a lot of their fans believe this too.
A big bustling town has a club to support, kids will grow up there supporting their local team and going to games on a regular basis, which has to be better than the situation I imagine they had, where the extent of most kids' support for a team was buying a United/Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool kit and watching games on Sky.
And they're a club that have aspirations similar to our own. Though their progress has been slow in comparison to ours, theirs has been on a shoestring playing budget and they've gone about it in the right manner, spending within their means, giving young managers a go and bringing through young local players like Dele Alli and Brendan Galloway- who are both Premier League regulars despite being teenagers- as well as our own Sam Baldock of course. Who knows if those players would've even been picked up by a club had MK not existed.
And Wimbledon are probably doing better now than they would've been had they continued as Wimbledon- the club moving to MK just gave them a bit of extra time to start their new club, as I'm sure they would've gone bust and had to start again anyway. They've had another incredible journey in making their way back up this far and I'm sure they too are dreaming of repeating history and competing with the big boys again someday.
But yeah in response to the OP, they probably should drop the Dons in fairness. I think a lot of their fans believe this too.
Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews
Remainer
Love your work, get yer arse on the Peacehaven forum (link below) it's a load of pony but we've gotta start somewhere!
father_and_son
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As someone who went to just the occasional game at Withdean, it was certainly the impression among many. I tried to get tickets a few times for games and couldn't (perhaps I just picked the wrong ones to go for, left it too late or wanted too many seated together or a combination of all of these).
I can say that the expectation among many of the people I spoke to, stoked by own experience, was that getting tickets for a one-off game wasn't always that easy!
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The biggest difference between us and them, we earned our stadium, they didn't. I would say they have been spoilt.
They hardly came from nothing and they should have started in the non leagues.
They hardly came from nothing and they should have started in the non leagues.
This is true, but the myth that it was always sold out persisted.
I spoke to someone I used to work with, must have been about 2008, and he was very surprised to learn that he could get a ticket quite easily if he wanted to.
Megazone
On his last warning
Exactly. If they ever get to the Prem. It will hardly look like they climbed their way there. It almost embarrasses the prestige of getting to the top flight when all they did was take over a club who already had a much richer history in top flight football than even the Albion.
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It's why I can't stand them. I would respect them more if they dropped the Dons part from their name, Dons has absolutely nothing to do with Milton Keynes, and secondly they started from the lower depths of non league.
Not Andy Naylor
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I can't blame anyone for supporting a team in the town they live in, just as I don't blame any of our new supporters who didn't fancy Withdean on a cold, wet day. Or didn't know you could get a ticket. Most of those fans weren't clamouring for league football as far as I remember. I don't even blame the loathsome Pete Winkelman, one of the slimiest and most unpleasant people I've ever met.
The fault lies with the football authorities who caved in and allowed a club of long standing and rich tradition in its home borough to move. Had they resisted, then Winkelman and company might have got behind a non-league club in the MK area and done things properly. And Merton Borough Council, who refused to lift a finger to help the original Wimbledon to find a site for a new stadium.
The fault lies with the football authorities who caved in and allowed a club of long standing and rich tradition in its home borough to move. Had they resisted, then Winkelman and company might have got behind a non-league club in the MK area and done things properly. And Merton Borough Council, who refused to lift a finger to help the original Wimbledon to find a site for a new stadium.
Langley
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For the correct answer post this on the AFC Wimbledon site. Then stand well back.
There's a big difference between the two scenarios, but I don't like the way clubs get through administration without at least a relegation either.
MK is a much worse scenario as those involved should have backed the existing team in Milton Keynes and brought them into the league in the same way that some other "new towns" have managed it. The people of Milton Keynes clearly didn't care as much about having a local football team as Stevenage and Crawley, as their team was very poorly supported. That may have been due to the number of other local league sides already in the MK area, who must have been affected by what happened as well.
The fact that AFC Wimbledon are in the league proves that the move to MK was totally unnecessary.
There is a huge difference. Franchising a club is supposed to be against the rules whereas going into administration comes with a punishment that has been votes on by all the clubs within the same league.
If you have ever worked for a company that has gone through administration, you would know that it is a fallacy that the company is bought at a knock down price. The administrators are legally obliged to do the best for the creditors*, if a company only pays out x pence in the pound, you will find that this is what the company was worth. If it was a knock-down price then there would be many other interested parties.
*although the often do very well out of it themselves.
Langley
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MK Dons have never competed with the big boys.
you are referring to AFC Wimbledon, and many other football fans the country over would love to see them competing with the big boys again.
I was referring to AFC, wasn't very clear in hindsight.
Langley
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In answer to your 3rd paragraph we are still the same club, they are not. We have only changed grounds, they started a new club at a new ground.
Their loyal fans fought to stop them using the name Wimbledon, Hence the Dons,