AmexRuislip
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Quite eerie to think that the owner was married to Wendy Rush, the great great granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Strauss-Kahn, who stayed on board the Titanic, so others could escape 
[News] Missing submersible.
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Despite all the very public videos?
The French guy had been down in Titan several times too, I think, so would have known how basic it was.
Bold Seagull
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Well, a company like Boeing can use all the aviation safety standards and certificates and still cock up the software systems so that two passenger jets with nothing wrong with them crash killing everyone on board.
The Tacoma bridge appeared to be an engineering marvel until the wind got it to its resonant frequency. Human beings are adventurous and innovative but they are never without mistakes or fallibility.
An innovator designing and building a proto-type submarine - yep going to have a fair amount of risk.
Milano
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That makes no sense. This French bloke who had completed this trip several times? Each time this coffin tube successfully came back it became more ‘safe’.
What I cannot get my head around is the Co-owner already using language like ‘we must learn from this’. I mean WTAF? Surely you’d be destroying the company, shelving the entire disaster out of respect, but no, this sociopathic wants to carry on.
They found the wreckage when they got a ROV to the Titanic site.
I think we can assume 'oxygen ran out' on Sunday...
Actually, can't find confirmation that Nargeolet had been on Titan before.
But he was very, very experienced and would know what he was (literally) getting into.
During an interview in 2019, Nargeolet, then 73, was asked whether he got scared diving 12,500ft below the water's surface to reach the Titanic.
'If you are 11 metres or 11 kilometres down, if something bad happens, the results are the same,' the mariner told the Irish Examiner at the time.
'When you're in deep water, you're dead before you realise that something is happening, so it's not a problem.'
NOW they tell us...
www.independent.co.uk
Secret US Navy underwater microphones ‘detected Titan sub implosion’
Acoustic detectors used to track enemy submarines picked up the fatal blast
www.independent.co.uk
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
This is the saddest part of it, a 19 yo trying to please his stupid father.Yeah, gotta feel for the kid (and his mum/sister)...
19-year-old Titan passenger was ‘terrified’ before trip, his aunt says
Azmeh Dawood, the older sister of Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, said her nephew was reluctant to go on the Titan expedition.www.nbcnews.com
Azmeh Dawood — the older sister of Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood — told NBC News that her nephew, Suleman, informed a relative that he "wasn't very up for it" and felt "terrified" about the trip to explore the wreckage of the Titanic.
But the 19-year-old ended up going aboard OceanGate's 22-foot submersible because the trip fell over Father's Day weekend and he was eager to please his dad, who was passionate about the lore of the Titanic, according to Azmeh.
portlock seagull
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From a matriarchal culture. As a billionnaire too, I’m sure blind obedience probably expected. A 19year old ‘kid’ knowing his fathers one of richest men in the world, well, he was never going to say no when his Dads vanity got the better of him and he made the fatal decision.
It’s a very sad story, all of them should never have been down there or anywhere near it. I just hope they didn’t suffer, which at least seems likely now. That will be a small comfort to widow and other surviving family. RIP and hopefully these enterprises won’t be arranging further trips for a very long time to come. Not until required safety and science has sufficiently caught up.
portlock seagull
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I read his quote elsewhere. My immediate thought was what a load of rubbish. I’m not as saltier a sea dog as him, but if you’re 11m down and get into trouble that’s very much survivable compared to 11km down. The results are in no way the same therefore. He’s talking shite.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
What about the guy who paid a deposit to be on this very trip, saw the Xbox controller, and thought..."mmmnah".
Fair play. Almost like sumfink out of Final Destination.
Fair play. Almost like sumfink out of Final Destination.
Nottseagull
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I've been reading up on recent historical rescue missions here. It's a very mixed success rate.
apnews.com
Past deep sea rescues show the challenges of saving those on board
The desperate search for a submersible that disappeared and imploded while taking five people to view the Titanic wreckage has drawn attention to other deep-sea rescues.
apnews.com
The sequel to that was the huge flop 'Raise the Titanic'. I still have it in the attic on Betamax
I think we can probably assume that the oxygen ran out - or became irrelevant - immediately after the implosion killed them all. RIP.
Yes. Black humour has always existed. When the Titanic originally sunk the satirical magazine 'Punch' published a cartoon. It was a polar bear going to the offices of the White Star line (Titanic's owners), and the caption read "Any news of the iceberg?"
nicko31
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Maybe we should all reflect on the amount of coverage given to this story versus 600 odd dead in Med last week. A shameful reflection of our media.
Will there be a mini-series to follow?
Will there be a mini-series to follow?
The media is merely a reflection of society and what society wants
The billionaires could not have wished for an easier death either. Absolutely no suffering at all. Unlike the hundreds of migrants in the Med because no one will reduce them.
“Dr Molé said: 'It would have been so sudden, that they wouldn't even have known that there was a problem, or what happened to them. 'It's like being here one minute, and then the switch is turned off. You're alive one millisecond, and the next millisecond you're dead.'” Mail