[News] Missing Lancashire woman

[Eric the meek]

A word about the police handling of this case.

The police have come in for a fair amount of criticism, no doubt some of which we are not aware of.
The media, watchdogs, random media commentators, senior police officers, politicians national and local, will all have questions and concerns.

You're under pressure, day and night. 24/7, you're inundated with spam, from both well-meaning social media commentators, and not so well-meaning trolls.
Then you've got the people who are threatening to tell stories about the missing woman's private life. Nice.
All of this noise is inevitably a distraction from your core task of finding a solution to the missing person case.

I don't envy the police one bit.

 

[portlock seagull]

Absolutely bizarre some people saying about closing the thread

Everyone is talking about this in real life suggesting theories and discussing what could have happened, it’s just normal human nature, I can’t see any wild or offensive theories on this thread, it’s just similar to what any workplace/group of friends are talking about atm

“Absolutely bizarre”? Just a mere suggestion TW!

 

[dazzer6666]

A word about the police handling of this case.

The police have come in for a fair amount of criticism, no doubt some of which we are not aware of.
The media, watchdogs, random media commentators, senior police officers, politicians national and local, will all have questions and concerns.

You're under pressure, day and night. 24/7, you're inundated with spam, from both well-meaning social media commentators, and not so well-meaning trolls.
Then you've got the people who are threatening to tell stories about the missing woman's private life. Nice.
All of this noise is inevitably a distraction from your core task of finding a solution to the missing person case.

I don't envy the police one bit.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Impossible situation for them

 

[Eric the meek]

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Impossible situation for them

When this is all over, or when a suitable period of time has gone by to allow the case to be put on the back burner, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a review of the law, to allow the police a chance to do their job, and not be submerged by an avalanche of social media chatter.

This can't be allowed to happen again. There's a fine line of course - you don't want to discourage genuine witnesses etc.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Impossible situation for them

Braverman has waded in now, criticising them.

Nicola Bulley: Home secretary asks police to explain health disclosures

A source says the home secretary wants to know why police released Nicola Bulley's health details.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hugo Rune]

Braverman has waded in now, criticising them.

Nicola Bulley: Home secretary asks police to explain health disclosures

A source says the home secretary wants to know why police released Nicola Bulley's health details.

www.bbc.co.uk

Awful nasty woman looking for political capital during this tragedy.

 

[rippleman]

Makes sense to be honest, my belief was that the police obviously spoke to the family first before releasing the personal information to the press.
They would have had to agree, one would like to think, there must have been a reason and this sounds like a plausible one, even if it is just a threat.
Those jumping up and down at the police, should hold their horses, we do not know everything and have I have faith (because if you don't what else is there) that they are doing everything for a reason.

Not all of the police are rapists and racists, there are some very good people doing a very important job.

This is true. There are obviously more good, honest coppers than wrong 'uns but even the Met Commissioner has admitted that there are far too many wrong 'uns and the problem you have is you can't ever be sure what you are going to get.

My 32 year old daughter said that before Sarah Everard's murder, she probably would have complied if someone had pulled up and identified themself as a police officer. She said that if it happened now, she would run as fast as she could. I think that speaks volumes.

 

[severnside gull]

Seems to me the police disclosure is about saving their public face rather than helping either the investigation or the family. Ill judged

 

[Justice]

Another related theory re knife crime, you reap what you sow, Thatcher and co, drastically cut funding in inner city youth projects from May 1979 onwards, youth clubs, youth centres, cultural centres etc, and 40 years on many of those inner cities are ravaged with knife crime and a gang culture, and invariably what happens in the cities ends up in the towns. We've had a stabbing in Macdonalds in Worthing this week with armed Police then holding up innocent teenagers who were initially though to be potential suspects.
Thankfully they caught the suspect and he's already appeared in court.

Cheers Maggie!

Back to the OP, lets hope for the sake of Ms Bulley's family, specifically her kids, that everyone eventually gets some kind of closure.

But imagine the media scramble if she were to suddenly reappear alive having been holed up somewhere?

Given her apparent mental state they surely wouldn't do her for wasting Police time?

The commissioning editor at Netflix would literally be salivating.

The trouble with all the media attention is if this lady just wanted some time out and not in her right mind they have have made it near impossible for her to go home on her own accord.

 

[cjd]

Braverman has waded in now, criticising them.

Nicola Bulley: Home secretary asks police to explain health disclosures

A source says the home secretary wants to know why police released Nicola Bulley's health details.

www.bbc.co.uk

Has she..?


Much as I may not like Braverman , I can't see any criticism as yet, attributed to her

 

[Hamilton]

I reckon the dog did it.

If she is under severe mental pressure (if that's true), then she is not going to be thinking straight. It will be more impulsive. I would doubt that someone in such a state could mastermind her own disappearance without leaving a trace.

There's no indication that she has gone in the river, and the search would suggest she is not there.

These two aspects alone make this a fascinating 'who done it'? I don't think we can blame the press for taking an interest or the police for being baffled. Trolls on the other hand need to be arrested, or, if were were to treat social media platforms in the same way that we treat the press, then the owners of these platforms should be held to account for that content.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Has she..?


Much as I may not like Braverman , I can't see any criticism as yet, attributed to her

Have you read the article? It is an ongoing investigation, so why is she questioning the police methods?

 

[drew]

Seems to me the police disclosure is about saving their public face rather than helping either the investigation or the family. Ill judged

Care to enlighten us to the thinking behind that?

 

[drew]

Did occur to me that if she does reappear, she’s possibly got a strong case for suing the police for disclosure of personal information.

I'd be surprised bearing in mind it seems the family weren't opposed to the release. Also, might the Police have a case for wasting Police time then. I doubt either case would be pursued.

 

[cjd]

Have you read the article? It is an ongoing investigation, so why is she questioning the police methods?

Yes, of course I have read it....lol.

It's just that you said she was criicising the police , but as far as I can see she is questioning and requesting more information , the same as Yvette Cooper is doing from the Labour side.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, of course I have read it....lol.

It's just that you said she was criicising the police , but as far as I can see she is questioning and requesting more information , the same as Yvette Cooper is doing from the Labour side.

Questioning their method, not requesting more information. She is questioning a specific action ie revealing medical information.

 

[cjd]

Questioning their method, not requesting more information. She is questioning a specific action ie revealing medical information.

Sorry to press on with this, but your are being disengenuous.

You clearly stated that Braverman was "criticising them ".

The article very clearly states ( as she should ) that she is requesting information regarding revealing medical information. So far, I see no critical quotes attributed to her.

Almost identical to Yvette Cooper.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Sorry to press on with this, but your are being disengenuous.

You clearly stated that Braverman was "criticising them ".

The article very clearly states ( as she should ) that she is requesting information regarding revealing medical information. So far, I see no critical quotes attributed to her.

Almost identical to Yvette Cooper.

Yvette Cooper is not mentioned in the BBC article.

Police will be asked about Nicola Bulley health disclosures to ensure they were necessary, the information commissioner says.
John Edwards said personal details should not be "disclosed inappropriately".
The 45-year-old disappeared three weeks ago during a riverside dog walk in St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire.
Lancashire Police was criticised for making her struggles with alcohol and the menopause public.
Mr Edwards said data protection laws existed "to ensure personal information is used properly and fairly".

"Police can disclose information to protect the public and investigate crime, but they would need to be able to demonstrate such disclosure was necessary," he said.
A source close to Suella Braverman said she had "asked for an explanation".
A Home Office spokesman said: "The home secretary and policing minister are receiving regular updates from Lancashire Police on its handling of this case, including why personal information about Nicola was briefed out at this stage of the investigation."

Dame Vera Baird, the former victims' commissioner for England and Wales, told BBC Radio 4's Today Lancashire Police had been subject to "heavy, and in my view, totally justified criticism".
"If it was relevant, it needed to be in a public domain at the start, and it wasn't," she said.

It is also extremely rare that a Home Secretary would get involved in a missing person investigation, so why this one?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This editor needs sacking.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

In the interest of fairness, that was the early edition and was later changed.