[Football] Mindless vandalism of a defibrillator at Buxted FC

[BN9 BHA]

Those dates dont correspond to my own at Fawcett - Got the cane from an English teacher and a PE teacher in 84/85.

Fawcett teachers ‘weapons’ for walloping pupils when I was there.

Cane.
Mini cane for knuckles.
Plimsoll AKA the slipper.
Wooden metre rule across the head.
Blackboard rubber, thrown hard or aimed to cover talking kid in chalk dust.
Leather belt AKA the strap.
Plus teachers grabbing hair and ears.

 

[Baker lite]

Fawcett teachers ‘weapons’ for walloping pupils when I was there.

Cane.
Mini cane for knuckles.
Plimsoll AKA the slipper.
Wooden metre rule across the head.
Blackboard rubber, thrown hard or aimed to cover talking kid in chalk dust.
Leather belt AKA the strap.
Plus teachers grabbing hair and ears.

I left Fawcett in 87, we were the last year to get the cane[emoji51]


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[Cheshire Cat]

So what is the consensus here....

Burn them?

Hang them?

Impale them?

Birch them?

National service?

Let them go after a telling off?

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

I've never been to Sweden but Im sure it must be more violent than the UK because of your Viking history.
Surely it's violent over there?
I always imagine your town centres to be full of drunken bearded giants fighting it out for a seat next to Odin in Valhalla.

I think we Brits are generally very peaceful.

 

[BN9 BHA]

I left Fawcett in 87, we were the last year to get the cane[emoji51]


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I saw one lad get the cane in front of the class in the first few months I was there, that put me off from playing up.

 

[Denis]

I was at a primary school early 60’s in Northolt, west London.I remember the headmistress giving boys the cane in front of everyone in assembly, probably for nicking stuff. My favourite teacher, Mr Lewis (Welsh), was very strict, we had 20 spellings to learn for a test every Friday. If you got less than 15 correct, you got the ‘double ruler’ across the hand, girls as well.
Then at grammar school, the slipper and cane were punishment, the headmaster’s office overlooked the playground, so everyone saw! I think most of the pupils turned out okay…..

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

The Police will just see this as the king of pain.

https://youtu.be/tFN5DveQH0o

The Police should send them a message in a bottle,

https://youtu.be/MbXWrmQW-OE

So you haven’t a clue and are trying to hide it with police puns.


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[Wrong-Direction]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emperatures-soared-75F-Brighton-seafront.html

Sorry I haven't read thread to see if this was covered

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[Weststander]

https://uk.gofundme.com/f/buxted-fc-health-promotion?qid=c77115df425bd2b8a02a71035ea13b10

If anyone wants to donate this is a great cause and response from Buxted FC…!

Will do.

But top work from the people behind your club’s existing CCTV …. clear images.

So often they’re grainy, enabling scummers to get away with stuff.

 

[Mackenzie]

So what is the consensus here....

Burn them?

Hang them?

Impale them?

Birch them?

National service?

Let them go after a telling off?

Make them pay for a replacement would be top of my list.

 

[BN9 BHA]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emperatures-soared-75F-Brighton-seafront.html

Sorry I haven't read thread to see if this was covered

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Do as you likeys?

 

[Weststander]

I was at a primary school early 60’s in Northolt, west London.I remember the headmistress giving boys the cane in front of everyone in assembly, probably for nicking stuff. My favourite teacher, Mr Lewis (Welsh), was very strict, we had 20 spellings to learn for a test every Friday. If you got less than 15 correct, you got the ‘double ruler’ across the hand, girls as well.
Then at grammar school, the slipper and cane were punishment, the headmaster’s office overlooked the playground, so everyone saw! I think most of the pupils turned out okay…..

In all my years of education, I got one minor smack from the primary head (she was an amazing headteacher btw), for punching a kid who ruined my artwork. He got a hiding.

But I don’t agree with it at all. Teachers and heads could or would use in it temper, against kids they didn’t like, plus it would be a boon for a sadist. Giving kids an idea that violence has its purposes.

I wouldn’t want an educationalist touching my kids.

In a civilised world, there are far more effective punishments. I preferred a smack from my Dad, compared to being grounded or pocket money being withdrawn. Warped thinking really, the violence was ok because it was over with quickly.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Youths under 18 cannot be named unless the judge allows it.

Another reason why locals should deal with this stuff and if they re-offend, run them out of towm John Wayne style.

 

[BN41Albion]

When it comes to punishment vs rehabilitation, in Sweden we remain strongly on the rehabilitation side as punishment usually doesnt lead to improvement in whoever has been punished.

The reason for Britain being "more violent" than other similar countries is probably economical and social inequality. Not so much today but for a long period in the past you had a large upper-class and a gigantic working class and a smaller middle class than most comparable countries. It creates friction and the sort of divided culture you seem to have - on one had the drunken miners and football hooligans and on the other hand all the upper class bollocks with the fancy titles and nice hats and whatever. In the rift between those, violence (as well as blood thirstyness) and similar gets a space to grow.

'gigantic working class'?! It's large but middle class larger. And our upper class really isn't as big as what programmes like Downton Abbey would have you believe. Comparatively we're pretty similar to other Western countries (with Scandinavian countries having larger middle classes). When I've lived abroad similar issues with alcohol etc have existed abroad too. Not Southern Europe as much but France/Germany and others. Bit more pronounced here perhaps because of the amount of bars and pubs concentrated in city centres, but it's generally very easy to stay away from the few cheaper streets night-life wise (West Street here in Brighton, for example).

Edit: only just realised you wrote 'not so much today but in the past... ' yes, perhaps some truth in your thinking re the past what with being at the forefront of industrialisation. But our middle class also grew very rapidly following on from industrialisation.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

'gigantic working class'?! It's large but middle class larger. And our upper class really isn't as big as what programmes like Downton Abbey would have you believe. Comparatively we're pretty similar to other Western countries (with Scandinavian countries having larger middle classes). When I've lived abroad similar issues with alcohol etc have existed abroad too. Not Southern Europe as much but France/Germany and others. Bit more pronounced here perhaps because of the amount of bars and pubs concentrated in city centres, but it's generally very easy to stay away from the few cheaper streets night-life wise (West Street here in Brighton, for example).

I'm pretty sure that Britain was one of the first western/european countries to have a significant middle class, because we industrialised earlier and had generally liberal governments (in economic terms). At the same time, even during the Napoleonic Wars Europeans tended to be horrified by our army's habit of flogging soldiers half to death for relatively minor misdemeanours.

 

[happypig]

Community service is no punishment at all, I have read on many occasions that they dont show up but the police have not got the time to round them up!!!!!!
It encourages them to do it again

I suggest you read better reports; If an offender doesn't attend a session then they will be in breach. Two breaches and they are called back to court to explain why. The court will either allow the Community Order to continue (If the offender manager thinks they will comply) or revoke and resentence.
The police have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Despite not being seen as a "proper punishment" by some areas of the media they can be highly effective.

 

[Eeyore]

I was at a primary school early 60’s in Northolt, west London.I remember the headmistress giving boys the cane in front of everyone in assembly, probably for nicking stuff. My favourite teacher, Mr Lewis (Welsh), was very strict, we had 20 spellings to learn for a test every Friday. If you got less than 15 correct, you got the ‘double ruler’ across the hand, girls as well.
Then at grammar school, the slipper and cane were punishment, the headmaster’s office overlooked the playground, so everyone saw! I think most of the pupils turned out okay…..

I got a slap round the face a couple of times me. No holding back from one of my teachers. One of them was for not being able to do joined up writing. I still can't and regularly thump myself.

 

[Sheebo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emperatures-soared-75F-Brighton-seafront.html

Sorry I haven't read thread to see if this was covered

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Absolute disgrace - you just know the sort of scummy family they are. And sorry but no surprise their kid has a gut like that too. Yes I am judging and no I don’t feel bad as I know I’m right

 

[Rowdey]

I saw one lad get the cane in front of the class in the first few months I was there, that put me off from playing up.

Wise move.. i was a bit silly getting done twice... Once was for a 'Bevendean Barcelona' holdall full of air pistols and air rifles..

 

[Happy Exile]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emperatures-soared-75F-Brighton-seafront.html

Sorry I haven't read thread to see if this was covered

I just don't understand the mentality of people like this. Not caring? Entitlement? No conscience? Are they ill? Pretty sure they're parked in disabled only parking there too.