[Football] Millwall fans covering themselves in glory again

[Lyndhurst 14]

Someone who is an expert in being a lazy, worthless, freeloading turd. Highly skilled in leeching off others while contributing very little themselves.

I know a lot of capitalists, socialists, atheists and east coast liberals who are lazy, worthless, freeloading turds. Marxism does not have exclusivity in this respect

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I know a lot of capitalists, socialists, atheists and east coast liberals who are lazy, worthless, freeloading turds. Marxism does not have exclusivity in this respect

Every Capitalist I've ever met is rather driven. Naturally by money, things and success.

Always seem to have their fingers in 10 different money making "projects".

 

[Live by the sea]

I know a lot of capitalists, socialists, atheists and east coast liberals who are lazy, worthless, freeloading turds. Marxism does not have exclusivity in this respect

I miss the upper east side - do you know Lyndhurst if Scalinatella on East 61st is still open . My favourite Italian restaurant in Manhattan.

 

[dazzer6666]

Wonder where this thread will head when there’s a bit of booing tonight...........

 

[Live by the sea]

There won’t be any booing tonight . Despite the fact more people are now aware of some of BLM’s political stance which many people will have an issue with , in Brighton we are very liberal so will give the benefit of the doubt to the bigger picture - which is the most important message for the campaign. I always thought the BLM message should have also run in tandem a campaign that looking openly within their own community as statistically young black people certainly in the UK are far more likely to be killed by other young black people than in any other scenario.

I appreciate a lot of work on this has been done by the police and other task forces but I do feel it would be better received if it was a well known black organisation that was trying to sort this issue out .

Before I get all the Guardian readers up in arms ( metaphorically speaking ) I am not saying that because this is an issue the bigger message to society of Black Lives Matter is not important of course it is , all I am suggesting is that it would probably have more power if it was a twinned approach . Would also get more sympathy from people who may think , what’s this to do with me .

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I miss the upper east side - do you know Lyndhurst if Scalinatella on East 61st is still open . My favourite Italian restaurant in Manhattan.

I'm on 77th and York so must admit not really sure, a lot of restaurants are struggling on the UES like the rest of New York. They recently introduced an optional 10% Covid surcharge which may help but with limited capacity indoors it's not looking good

 

[Live by the sea]

I'm on 77th and York so must admit not really sure, a lot of restaurants are struggling on the UES like the rest of New York. They recently introduced an optional 10% Covid surcharge which may help but with limited capacity indoors it's not looking good

Oh ok you must be near the lovely JJ park . Here in Brighton there doing 30 % discounts in some restaurants !

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Oh ok you must be near the lovely JJ park . Here in Brighton there doing 30 % discounts in some restaurants !

Yeah, just opposite John Jay, the free outdoor pool is great in the summer (if it ever re-opens !)

 

[daveinplzen]

If anybody tells me that a protest regarding opposition to racism = Marxism, I realise I'm talking to somebody desperate to oppose any protest, and will make an assumption of their reasons, and character.

 

[Your Mum]

Every Capitalist I've ever met seems to have their fingers in

...your mum.

 

[daveinplzen]

Really That seems remarkably OTT. Now, I am absolutely anti-racism but I am getting quite sick of people constantly being told what they should think or what they should say. When you a forcing a point in peoples faces there will, for better or worse, be a backlash from some but have people now really become that thin-skinned we have to ban others for not completely seeing eye-to-eye??

Personaly, I'm tired of people trying to say criticism of their racism is having an opinion forced on them.

 

[Stat Brother]

I've just called AITC, although being rather helpful they said they didn't currently run a BTEC in Marxism, but would ask Culip and Butters to see if they'd like to start it next year.



Which is nice.

 

[Simster]

Every Capitalist I've ever met is rather driven. Naturally by money, things and success.

Always seem to have their fingers in 10 different money making "projects".

I think you're confusing capitalism with entrepreneurialism.

I'd have to agree with [MENTION=10885]Lyndhurst 14[/MENTION] - there are plenty of incompetent bone-idle capitalists out there. The sort he is talking about are the sort who like the idea of risk takers gaining rewards, but do so from the comfort of a security blanket of obscene wealth and have never done a day's hard work in their lives. Boris Johnson would be the sort of person I have in mind.

 

[Bakero]

Every Capitalist I've ever met is rather driven. Naturally by money, things and success.

Always seem to have their fingers in 10 different money making "projects".

Sound like a great bunch of lads.

 

[jackalbion]

What's the pay differential between being a trained Marxist and untrained Marxist?

Is it worth going to Marxist school to get the extra qualifications?
I just don't know if I can fit it in between Yogurt Knitting and sandal making.

Depends how much George Soros is paying.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

depends on your ability and your needs I think.

Worth remembering that 'trained marxist' is a term first used on NSC by that font of all wisdom, das reich. When he was asked about the origin of the term he directed us to a website attacking the American BLM 'movement'. I did some research (OK, Wikipedia) and this website has been identified as posting articles by journalists who don't exist, and enjoying funding from Putin's Russia. In other words, a fake news outlet. In other words the term 'trained marxist' is a fake news term, handy for racists who wish to conflate anti-racism with 'black power', marxism and all that. I find it ironic that das reich is happy to believe what the contents of a Russian funded website is telling him, but its unwilling to believe what the good people of NSC are telling him

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

A Millwall fan just rang LBC and claimed there was also booing at West Ham and Grimsby. I checked and he is partially correct. It was Colchester not Grimsby fans and the West Ham account is disputed. The narrative though that this is solely a Millwall issue is classic tabloid journalism that a lot seem to have fallen for. I add myself to that, until this morning.

 

[Bakero]

Worth remembering that 'trained marxist' is a term first used on NSC by that font of all wisdom, das reich. When he was asked about the origin of the term he directed us to a website attacking the American BLM 'movement'. I did some research (OK, Wikipedia) and this website has been identified as posting articles by journalists who don't exist, and enjoying funding from Putin's Russia. In other words, a fake news outlet. In other words the term 'trained marxist' is a fake news term, handy for racists who wish to conflate anti-racism with 'black power', marxism and all that. I find it ironic that das reich is happy to believe what the contents of a Russian funded website is telling him, but its unwilling to believe what the good people of NSC are telling him

I'm loath to back up DR but Patrisse Cullors, one of the founders of the BLM movement, did in fact refer to herself and a co-founder as "trained Marxists". This phrase popped up in a 2015 interview and apparently she reasserted her Marxist credentials in her book, When They Call You a Terrorist. I'm not sure why this has any bearing on people's support for racial equality but there you go.

 

[albionalbino]

Talk to my hand
Regards
DF

Is that the hand that is sieg heiling or the one that's holding Mein Kampf?

 

[Acker79]

Colchester chairman statement on the booing at their game: https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2020/december/club-statement/

Colchester United owner and Chairman Robbie Cowling has issued the following statement:

It was so good to welcome our fans back into our stadium on Saturday for our League Two game against Grimsby and so much about the day was perfect.

• My journey into the stadium felt so much more exciting knowing other fans were making their way there too.
• The amazing efforts of the staff to ensure the stadium was Covid-19 secure were finally tested and because of the brilliant compliance with the code of conduct by the fans who attended, the months of hard work and preparation worked extremely well.
• Junior Tchamadeu at just 16 years and 348 days old became the youngest player to ever start a game for Colchester United and marked his debut with an excellent performance that belied his tender age and his lack of first team experience. Well done Junior and well done Steve and Hayden for being brave enough to start a young player like Junior in such an important game.
• Those in attendance may have been low in numbers but that was not obvious because those that did attend got right behind the team and made plenty of noise.
• Winning the game means we have gained seventeen points from our last nine league games. Considering the financial cut backs we were forced to make this season, I think that’s amazing. Dare I say it’s punching?

However, the game is not being talked about for all of the things I mentioned above but because of the ridiculous actions of a few who decided to boo our players whilst they took the knee before kick- off.

Our club supports the players and their choice to take the knee for a few seconds before every game.

Callum Harriot described the purpose of the gesture perfectly to me explaining that taking the knee dates back to early civil rights movements as a way of silently showing solidarity in support of political inequalities suffered by oppressed communities.

Those that take the knee want to highlight that all lives should be valued and should not be treated inhumanely or inferior to others just because of their race.

It is undeniable that black and other ethnic minority people are still the victims of racism, and the black footballers and staff at Colchester United feel that they are in a position of privilege that has been fought for through the blood and sweat of their ancestors.

A position that in 2020 the average black person is still not afforded.

Those taking the knee, and supporting the taking of the knee, not only shows their willingness to support the drive to eradicate racial oppression but force it to be a talking point even when it’s uncomfortable.

Undeniably, taking the knee is a fundamental catalyst in pushing the conversation and thus the necessary changes forward.

I’m sure the vast majority of Colchester United fans are supportive and want to play their part in showing they back the actions of our players.

Maybe those that booed on Saturday might now understand what this gesture means to our club and will at the very least remain silent during future games whilst the players continue to take the knee before each kick-off.

Alternatively, they should just stay away from our club because anyone that still wants to boo now that I have explained the purpose and importance of the taking of the knee is not welcome at our club.

I will be happy to refund anyone for the remaining value of their season permit if that is the reason they feel they can no longer attend our games.

It would be very disappointing if anyone does decide to boo again. Therefore, going forward I would like to make the actions of those fans who do boo the taking of the knee completely irrelevant.

For every game where the players choose to take the knee, I would like all of our fans to join me in applauding this gesture to ensure our players know we fully support them.
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