[News] Middle East conflict

[dejavuatbtn]

Lowest civilian to combatant death rate of any modern war

Trouble is they ain’t finished yet and won’t until that scumbag leader starts listening to people.

 

[pocketseagull]

Who do they think they are, Russia?

 

[heathgate]

Interestingly, Saudi has just come out in support of Lebenon.

From the BBC tonight -

Saudi Arabia says it stands with Lebanon Published at 22:20 British Summer Time​

22:20 BST​

In a statement issued just moments ago, Saudi Arabia says it stands in support of Lebanon and calls for the preservation of the country's "sovereignty and territorial integrity".

The Saudi foreign ministry said it had watched the events of recent days in Lebanon with "grave concern", though it made no made mention of the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

It also called on the international community to work to protect regional security and minimise the humanitarian consequences of the conflict.

The key point though, the Saudis don't really risk anything by saying that,.... Israel isn't technically attacking Lebanon, it's Hezbollah they are after.... so as long as Israel doesn't start trashing Lebanese military personnel and infrastructure.... I am guessing no tangible protests will ensue,.. the Lebanese don't want Hezbollah in their territory anymore than Israel do.

 

[heathgate]

Hi, historian here, so I certainly don’t. Therefore, I will ask the questions you avoided answering.

Do Palestinians have a right to exist? Do they have a right to a homeland not illegally occupied?

Note that the “illegal occupation” in this sense refers not to the state of Israel as a whole but to the illegally annexed territories by settlers on the West Bank. If you’d like me to include the Golan Heights (even though this is obviously not Palestinian territory) too then do let me know.

Golan is simply occupied as a spoil of war, you know, when Syria attempted to invade Israel, then Israel fought back and now maintain Golan as a buffer zone.

 

[dsr-burnley]

It doesn’t. It’s always been about the Zionist dream of a greater Israel.

I really fear a global conflict could be on the horizon. It’s only a matter of time before the Arab/Muslim world says enough is enough, and attack Israel from all sides. We all know what comes next.

When you say the Muslim world might attack from all sides, you're aware that they're already being attacked from the west, the north, and the south-east. There aren't many sides left.

 

[SeagullinExile]

The key point though, the Saudis don't really risk anything by saying that,.... Israel isn't technically attacking Lebanon, it's Hezbollah they are after.... so as long as Israel doesn't start trashing Lebanese military personnel and infrastructure.... I am guessing no tangible protests will ensue,.. the Lebanese don't want Hezbollah in their territory anymore than Israel do.

They’re killing Lebanese civilians as I type for goodness sake. Of course they’re attacking Lebanon.

 

[heathgate]

They’re killing Lebanese civilians as I type for goodness sake. Of course they’re attacking Lebanon.

Not a new phenomenon in Lebanon.....

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This is going well. Pick a side, grab a grenade and throw.

 

[Zeberdi]

This is going well. Pick a side, grab a grenade and throw.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Interestingly, Saudi has just come out in support of Lebenon.

From the BBC tonight -

Saudi Arabia says it stands with Lebanon Published at 22:20 British Summer Time​

22:20 BST​

In a statement issued just moments ago, Saudi Arabia says it stands in support of Lebanon and calls for the preservation of the country's "sovereignty and territorial integrity".

The Saudi foreign ministry said it had watched the events of recent days in Lebanon with "grave concern", though it made no made mention of the assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.

It also called on the international community to work to protect regional security and minimise the humanitarian consequences of the conflict.

That’s actually a pretty sensible statement given the tension in the region. I doubt they’ll stop their own war in Yemen though. And for a truly unified Arab / Muslim front Iran and Iraq will have to have a cuddle and Syria will need to unite.

Actual physical resistance to Israel is still likely to only come from terrorist organisations rather than national armies. That’s why Iran didn’t want to escalate and it’s what Netanyahu has gambled on.

 

[armchairclubber]

This is going well. Pick a side, grab a grenade and throw.

In the case of spineless Starmer and his complicit Labour Netenyahu and Zionist backing regime yes.

Can't say it's going so well though.

 

[Guinness Boy]

In the case of spineless Starmer and his complicit Labour Netenyahu and Zionist backing regime yes.

Can't say it's going so well though.

Yes, Israel attacking the Houthi’s is definitely Starmer’s fault.

I notice it’s raining this morning just in time for the dog walk. Why hasn’t he learned to control the weather yet? #StarmerOut

 

[armchairclubber]

Yes, Israel attacking the Houthi’s is definitely Starmer’s fault.

I notice it’s raining this morning just in time for the dog walk. Why hasn’t he learned to control the weather yet? #StarmerOut

Probably one of his next pledges.
The bloke is full of shit
Let's keep this going #StarmerOut

 

[Chicken Run]

Yes, Israel attacking the Houthi’s is definitely Starmer’s fault.

I notice it’s raining this morning just in time for the dog walk. Why hasn’t he learned to control the weather yet? #StarmerOut

He’ll get there He’s learnt how to do video calls and strategically place family pictures in the background from someone else’s property to give the impression he’s at home I wonder who’s flat he was at

 

[de la zouch]

I was asking you, that is now clarified.

Is t a nice question? ‘Nice’, oh do f***ing man up. It was for clarity, to understand further what may be influencing your opinion. Comprende?

I don’t ask what’s influencing your opinion?
Sorry I had forgotten that there’s an element of society that believe if someone doesn’t follow their beliefs. They must be wrong, uneducated, or driven by some outside incorrect influence.
Why are you so full of aggression/ anger? I can feel your finger pointing.

 

[Chicken Run]

If he’s asking he would say “ so I know”
I think it’s a NSC 1st being asked where someone is from. Do you think it’s a nice question?

Nah there’s been loads of Poll’s over the years asking the question

 

[Guinness Boy]

He’ll get there He’s learnt how to do video calls and strategically place family pictures in the background from someone else’s property to give the impression he’s at home I wonder who’s flat he was at

Either I’ve been whooshed or you’re on the wrong thread.

Back to a war where civilians are being murdered because terrorists raped and murdered pensioners and children maybe?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Probably one of his next pledges.
The bloke is full of shit
Let's keep this going #StarmerOut

The irony being you’d get a far right coalition instead who only listened to itself. Much like the Israeli government.

 

[Chicken Run]

Either I’ve been whooshed or you’re on the wrong thread.

Back to a war where civilians are being murdered because terrorists raped and murdered pensioners and children maybe?

Shit i’m sorry i thought i was on the Weather for dog walking thread

 

[A1X]

Golan is simply occupied as a spoil of war, you know, when Syria attempted to invade Israel, then Israel fought back and now maintain Golan as a buffer zone.

Yes, in much the same way as the Germans occupied Alsace and Lorraine after the war of 1871, a move which eventually led to the grievances which caused the Great War.