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[News] Middle East conflict
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aolstudios
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Lord Haw Haw couldn't have had a more laughable take.
But you know that.
You never, ever post in good faith
But you know that.
You never, ever post in good faith
aolstudios
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'Fascinating insight'
Lord Haw Haw couldn't have produced a more laughable take.
But you know that.
You never, ever post in good faith
Baldseagull
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I find this credible. Which claims in the film do you find laughable?'Fascinating insight'
Lord Haw Haw couldn't have produced a more laughable take.
But you know that.
You never, ever post in good faith
He never refutes specifics. Just liberally throws around anti-Semitism smears.
Baldseagull
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And a weird laugh emoji from cjd? Am I missing something?
Baldseagull
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Really not getting the use of the laugh emoji on this subject, whichever side of the argument you are most aligned with. Dead babies are not funny, Israeli or Palestinian.
Thanks for sharing
Yes. What a legend.
What have you ever done AOLSTUDIOS except sit on this site all day and laugh react
Up the PFLP
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Revenge is a powerful motivator. And how much of Israel's over-reaction is due to the wounds lying deep in the psyche from the Holocaust and centuries of persecution? Netanyahu's own father was born in Poland in 1910 and was a hawkish Zionist who believed in the expulsion of the Arabs from the new Jewish homeland. He lived to be 102. It is not surprising Bibi is as tenacious and zealous as he is.
I would say the Israeli actions will have guaranteed instability in that region for another 40 years minimum, as well as losing Western goodwill for another 20 years minimum.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Yes it would appear so. All those destitute and orphaned kids we see on our screens in Gaza today will be an extremely fertile breeding ground for the Hamas (or whoever replaces Hamas) terrorists of the future. It is why ultimately a peaceful two-state solution backed by multiple international partners is the only outcome which stands a chance at bring peace.Post 9/11 America was also absolutely hell-bent on vengeance for the slaughter of innocent people. Which nation - or quasi-nation - worthy of the name wouldn't be? And so we go again. And again...
AstroSloth
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- Dec 29, 2020
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And you do?
aolstudios
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Always
If every descendant of somebody killed in the Holocaust behaved in the same way as Netanyahu the world really would be in bother. Fortunately, it is only Netanyahu and his small, but influential cabel of right-wing extremists (aided and abetted by us and the USA arming the Israeli state) that are committing the atrocities in Gaza. So let's not come up with "excuses" for him.
In any event, wouldn't it be odd for somebody whose family suffered in the Holocaust, to commit genocide himself? The nazis wanted to remove the Jewish peoples from the earth and decided the best way was to kill and starve them. The State of Israel wants to remove the Palestinian people from Gaza and has decided that the best way is to kill and starve them. Different scale, but exactly the same aim.
fly high
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Sadly the hard part is convincing both sides to sign up for a two state solution. The hatred & distrust is even more entrenched than it was. I can't see it happening in this current century how ever much some may want it, the extremists on both sides will make sure it doesn't happen.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Sorry but I take some exception to this and it is a little offensive that you would even suggest such a thing …. It is rather offensive too, especially for a non-Jewish person to be making generalised assumptions about a ‘Jewish psyche’ being responsible for the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza. (I know you are not deliberately trying to insult Jews btw!)
There is nothing in the Jewish psych as you put it, to make Jewish people have a propensity to become war criminals or carry out the abhorrent treatment of Palestinians that we are seeing in Gaza. That is all Netanyahu’s political and religious extremism that has a very specific and geo-political agenda and also designed to keep him personally in power. Holocaust memories may make Israelis and Jews elsewhere more concerned for their security and after extreme and brutal extermination of over 5 million Jews in Nazi occupied Europe, this is understandable, but it doesn’t turn us into a heartless race of people bent on reaping revenge on helpless women and children in their thousands.
If you knew anything about the Jewish religion/character, you would know it has at it’s heart, as codified by the Torah, the welcoming of strangers and the highest form of charitable consciousness (which is to create a world where no one needed to rely on charity) . The spirit of generosity not ‘revenge’ is integral to Torah consciousness.
What is happening in Gaza, the Israeli government’s overreaction, is all to do with one man and his extremist minions’ pursuit of a Greater Israel, his obsession with avoiding corruption charges if he was voted out of power, and his own willingness to get into bed with far-right fascists to further his political and personal agenda.
Do not judge or think you can psychoanalyse the Jewish faith or being a Jew based on what you see unfolding in the news about Netanyahu’s war on the Gazan people.
’Israelis’ want Netanyahu out of power. The majority have absolutely NO desire for the destruction of Gaza nor desire mass civilian casualties - they see Netanyahu’s security forces as a failure and his war on Hamas, to get the hostages released, also failing.
TLDR? - it is not ‘ being Jewish’ that makes people revengeful monsters and war criminals but land grabbing greed, a desire for military power over others and political extremism.
Yet she didn't actually kill anyone. Unlike, lets use a couple of examples, the terrorists that blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946 or those that murdered British troops - all in the name of creating the state of Israel. Yet those that use the same tactics to create the state of Palestine you don't approve of ?
- Oct 20, 2022
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Netanyahu, by baiting Iran, is dragging the US and UK further and further toward a direct conflict in the ME - I would argue that has always been his agenda (and said as much right at the beginning of this thread, although was lampooned for being a conspiracy theorist ) - it is not surprising to me that the attack on the Damascus complex happened against the backdrop of Western governments beginning to debate the wisdom of selling arms to Israel 
. Of course we would not leave Israel unprotected in the face of Iran aggression - if anything, Iran’s promise to retaliate for these repeated attacks has refocussed the debate on needing to ‘defend’ Israel. Well played Netanyahu - changed the debate, got a very public ‘vow of iron clad support’ from a President who was beginning to be a thorn in your side just by bombing the Iran embassy in Damascus. It is solely because of Iran’s reluctance to get dragged into a direct conflict, that Netanyahu has not yet managed to spread this into a wider conflict.
No wonder Israelis political commentators are beginning to regard Netanyahu as the most immediate existential threat to Israel.
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. Of course we would not leave Israel unprotected in the face of Iran aggression - if anything, Iran’s promise to retaliate for these repeated attacks has refocussed the debate on needing to ‘defend’ Israel. Well played Netanyahu - changed the debate, got a very public ‘vow of iron clad support’ from a President who was beginning to be a thorn in your side just by bombing the Iran embassy in Damascus. It is solely because of Iran’s reluctance to get dragged into a direct conflict, that Netanyahu has not yet managed to spread this into a wider conflict. No wonder Israelis political commentators are beginning to regard Netanyahu as the most immediate existential threat to Israel.
Risks of bigger war rising as Iran intends to hit back over suspected Israeli embassy strike - but Biden knows he can't blink
After an airstrike killed Iranian generals in Syria's capital earlier this month, the risk of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza escalating across the Middle East has been rising - with the Israeli military preparing for Tehran's retaliation. The US knows weakness will only embolden both sides.
Greatest existential threat to Israel is Benjamin Netanyahu
The Israeli war in Gaza has brought devastation to the strip, accompanied by the massacre of civilians, mostly women and children; however, it may have another casualty, the state of Israel itself.
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