aolstudios
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You mean to say performative posturing on social media won't bring instant peace in Israel & Gaza?
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[News] Middle East conflict
- Thread starter Greenbag50
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Did it work?2009 - 1200 dead, we called for a ceasefire
Gordon Brown calls for immediate ceasefire in Gaza after Israeli invasion
PM says ongoing hostilities a matter of 'grave concern' and insists international pressure being put on both Israel and Hamaswww.theguardian.com
- Oct 20, 2022
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UN no longer an organisation that can protect people anywhere in Gaza?
- there are signs that genocidal policies of removing Palestinians from Gaza with little hope of having land fit to return to is underway
“Since the beginning of the war, Israel has forcibly moved more than 1.8 million Gazans from their homes, especially from the northern parts of the Gaza Strip. This is the largest forced displacement of Palestinians since 1948.
More than 270 people sheltering in UNRWA facilities have since been killed, and nearly 1,000 injured. Most of these shelters were located in the middle and southern areas of the Gaza Strip, which were thought to be safer. The sad reality is that Gazans are not safe anywhere: not at home, not in a hospital, not under the U.N. flag, not in the north, middle or south.”
” …the developments we are witnessing point to attempts to move Palestinians into Egypt, regardless of whether they stay there or are resettled elsewhere. “
www.latimes.com
- there are signs that genocidal policies of removing Palestinians from Gaza with little hope of having land fit to return to is underway
“Since the beginning of the war, Israel has forcibly moved more than 1.8 million Gazans from their homes, especially from the northern parts of the Gaza Strip. This is the largest forced displacement of Palestinians since 1948.
More than 270 people sheltering in UNRWA facilities have since been killed, and nearly 1,000 injured. Most of these shelters were located in the middle and southern areas of the Gaza Strip, which were thought to be safer. The sad reality is that Gazans are not safe anywhere: not at home, not in a hospital, not under the U.N. flag, not in the north, middle or south.”
” …the developments we are witnessing point to attempts to move Palestinians into Egypt, regardless of whether they stay there or are resettled elsewhere. “
We must prevent humanitarian aid from being used as an instrument of war
Civilians are pawns in the war in Gaza, yet humanitarian assistance has been made conditional, withheld or delivered according to political and military agendas.
www.latimes.com
- Oct 20, 2022
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Whilst the internal conflicts in Yeman has been largely sidelined in Western MSM, the Houthis in Yemen haven’t. Since Israel started it’s campaign in Gaza, Iran-backed Houthis rebel Jihadist forces have been firing ballistic missiles from Yemen towards Israel over the Red Sea in support of Palestinians. Several ships have been hit (including a British owned vessel), the latest a Norwegian tanker last night. The US has had a build up of military presence in the Red Sea and has downed Houthis missile attacks and drones. Several Houthis drones have fallen short and hit Egyptian sites in October another hit a school in Eliat in Southern Israel. The threats to international maritime interests in the Red Sea has been escalating in recent days and the US is very much engaged in naval, defensive activities in support of Israel’s Southern borders..
3 commercial ships hit by missiles in Houthi attack in Red Sea, US warship downs 3 drones
Ballistic missiles fired by Yemen’s Houthi rebels struck three commercial ships Sunday in the Red Sea.
apnews.com
A frightening, depressing shallow riposte to my thoughts on 18,000 Civilian deaths (race and nationality left out for your benefit).
Time for you to be defenestrated from your NSC Ivory Tower. FFS you went to the Railway well before us Corbynista are paying £6.80 for a pint of Harvey's.
I don't have an ivory tower. Why are you getting personal? I have no idea about your NSC persona. Try picking a fight with a 'This team right or wrong' merchant. I'm not one of them. I think Israel should stop. But without the US demanding it, this won't happen.
I was listening to an American (actually with a Brit accent but whatever) who has just resigned from the US administration because in his view the US position to support Israel in the hope they will do the right thing is now palpably false. That's something to note. Perhaps America will soon decide this is the wrong approach (Israel ight or wrong and hope for the best).
Not yet though. Sleepy Joe and Trump are seemingly Israel right or wrong. I don't like that.
In the meantime, feel free to piss on the foot of my Ivory tower while you come to terms with your fragile ego.
Algernon
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Spineless Sunak certainly didn't vote on my behalf and I'd hazard a guess not on the majority of the UK's behalf either.
Considering all the previously bloodthirsty and war hungry nations that voted in favour of the ceasefire, our vote looks, once again, puppet master led.
Considering all the previously bloodthirsty and war hungry nations that voted in favour of the ceasefire, our vote looks, once again, puppet master led.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Interesting results - alliances of countries with strong public support for right-wing popularism either abstaining or voting ‘no‘ (including Argentina, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Hungary, US, Bulgaria etc) or strong political alliance with the US like UK, Panama and Palua (military and strategic political alliance with US).
nicko31
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Well we voted for a ceasefire, the US abstained and shortly after there was one
If I was Labour I'd call for one now, enough is enough
I think they have.
nicko31
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No evidence of it yet. Hell on earth continues..
Keir Starmer Says He Still Does Not Support A Ceasefire In Gaza
The Labour leader said the loss of life in Gaza is "intolerable" but Hamas must release the 150 Israeli hostages it still holds captive.
OK, so we are just waiting for Starmer to call a ceasefire and all the killing will stop.No evidence of it yet. Hell on earth continues..
Keir Starmer Says He Still Does Not Support A Ceasefire In Gaza
The Labour leader said the loss of life in Gaza is "intolerable" but Hamas must release the 150 Israeli hostages it still holds captive.www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
I hadn't realized it was so simple.
Finger out, Starmer!
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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no need to depend on Starmer, the UN has called for a ceasefire, should be all settled now. if Israel dont agree, well, UN will be jolly cross and probably vote for sanctions that will be inconvenient, then if that doesnt work send in the UN peacekeepers.
- Oct 17, 2008
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You had me in the first half…
My post was a rebuttal to others who seem obsessed with Starmer's position over Gaza. My point was that it is irrelevant. As, indeed, largely, is the position of the UN, as you evidently agree.
aolstudios
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Well, exactly.
Israel or Hamas have no more interest in our opposition politicians' position on Gaza than we would in theirs on Brexit
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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There's f all MPs can do about most they involve themselves in
Perhaps.
My main issue here is that I can't get upset about an MP failing to dog whistle to a certain element in his support (and as a labour member I am very familiar with the 'attitude' of some 'activists') with a position that has no value.