[News] Middle East conflict

[Tyrone Biggums]

So you didn't have a problem with @Tyrone Biggums criticising the Islamic faith but a tongue in cheek riposte gets your hackles up? Interesting.

Why shouldn't it be criticised?

Would anyone care if someone criticised the mental cases like Westboro Baptists?

 

[Triggaaar]

Israeli settlers are displacing Palestinians from their homes. This isn't even disputed

I know. Have the Jewish people never been displaced from their homes?

Btselem, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International all agree Israel is conducting apartheid against the Palestinians

I agree that what they're doing is wrong. Has no wrong been done to Israel by its neighbours? If Israel's neighbours had been peaceful towards Israel, there would be no problem, and Palestinians would be living in peace. Am I saying that two wrongs make a right? No I'm not. But Israel have learned to survive aggression from their neighbours by showing force. I don't like it, I think they should leave the occupied territories. But Israel's neighbours are not innocent in all this.

What do people think the region will look like in 300 years time? Will it be similar to now, or maybe dominated by a massive Israel, or will Israel have disappeared with its people wiped out? I'm guessing the first or last option, and definitely not the middle one.

 

[portlock seagull]

No, you're simply dismissing someone based on their profession without knowing a thing about how educated they are on the topic. I'm not saying every musician is that educated, but you can't simply say that all musicians are uneducated, as I have shown.

You keep resorting to personal insults, almost as if you don't actually have anything relevant to say to refute points.

What racist comments have I made?

1. Christianity isn't a race.
2. I said nothing against Christians, if what I replied was against Christians then surely you should be attacking the poster I replied to for their comment no? All I said was that Christians across history have acted much the same as the Muslim religion, something that is true.

Maybe pull your head out your arse.

No. I dismissed rock stars in general as a comment and you and a few others have gone to town on that and are really quite boring now. What a hill you’ve chosen to die on.

You don’t tend to say that’s religionist, that’s why mocking, criticising etc someone’s faith gets labelled racist too. That’s all. It’s not a personal insult. It comes across as racist. I didn’t see the earlier comment you cite as part of your defence. Just your own one mocking Christian’s. Hence why i called you out over. Whilst I’m “getting my head out of my arse” as you so eloquently write, perhaps you could apologise for a misguided comment? Take ownership of. Instead of retorting with ‘but she said so I only said’ nonsense as some sort of counter. Are you racist? I don’t know you. Only judging on your comment. If - as someone else who’s leapt to your defence suggests - you were making a light hearted remark, well isn’t that the peril of the internet on a thread about the murder of hundreds of innocent people?

 

[knekkebrød]

Amnesty is under new management now. It's Putin's plaything

Aff, seriously... please. How is this promoting a good debate climate?

 

[Krafty]

You don’t tend to say that’s religionist, that’s why mocking, criticising etc someone’s faith gets labelled racist too. That’s all. It’s not a personal insult. It comes across as racist.

Please explain how this comment below is not also criticising those who worship Islam or do you acknowledge that this is also, in your view, racist.

If they wanted actual freedom they'd stop believing in that backwards ideology that dictates all their lives.

And if so, would you want any further action to be taken on these commenters?

We were trying to have a civilised conversation before all these religious insults, this applies to other NSCers, so can we please refrain from this?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Please explain how this comment below is not also criticising those who worship Islam or do you acknowledge that this is also, in your view, racist.

And if so, would you want any further action to be taken on these commenters?

You can be a redheaded blue eyed Muslim.

Has nothing to do with people following a backwards ideology though.

I mean are you wet behind the ears? We've been calling out these backwards ideologues of the sportswashing nations people don't want owning EPL clubs for a long time now.

 

[portlock seagull]

Please explain how this comment below is not also criticising those who worship Islam or do you acknowledge that this is also, in your view, racist.

And if so, would you want any further action to be taken on these commenters?

Two wrongs don’t make a right do they, if that’s what it was, and as I have said twice now, I hadn’t read the earlier related comment. Just the one mocking Christians.

 

[sparkie]

Amnesty is under new management now. It's Putin's plaything

Absolutely. Very Pro-Putin now, lost so much credibility and not fit for purpose anymore.

 

[Bakero]

Why shouldn't it be criticised?

Would anyone care if someone criticised the mental cases like Westboro Baptists?

Criticise away. That wasn't the issue I raised. Was just wondering why he picked up on the response and not your original comment. Apparently, he hadn't seen it so I'm sure he'll be in touch with you soon in the interest of balance .

 

[sparkie]

US moves carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean.

Probably with an eye on Iran.

 

[aolstudios]

US moves carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean.

Probably with an eye on Iran.

Good

 

[Pevenseagull]

Good

Yeah, that'll calm everything down

 

[nicko31]

Absolutely. Very Pro-Putin now, lost so much credibility and not fit for purpose anymore.

Can you give some examples ? Im genuinely interested how that can be the case.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Can you give some examples ? Im genuinely interested how that can be the case.

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In fairness they have made a few calls of late that I'm not too sure about. I

I wouldn't donate at the moment.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

(1) You can't make a conclusion of someone's opinion if you haven't listened to their opinion and instead base it upon their age or occupation, that is called prejudice.
(2) You do you, I consider everyone to have a voice no matter their background, that is why I'm engaging in conversation about the conflict here to NSC. It is understandable that you want to listen to subject matter experts, if you are looking at both viewpoints, but some people might want to listen to Taylor Swift's view - she is another human just like us and she may have some points that might be useful or not.

Are you a troll?

FFS. Get with it daddy-o. Here is how your conversations appears to me:

 

[Bakero]

Absolutely. Very Pro-Putin now, lost so much credibility and not fit for purpose anymore.

Really?

I've just been on Amnesty's website to see if there was anything to back this up. Nothing obvious. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

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[aolstudios]

Yeah, that'll calm everything down

I'd say keeping an eye on Iran is a good idea

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Really?

I've just been on Amnesty's website to see if there was anything to back this up. Nothing obvious. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

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Latest news on Russia's invasion of Ukraine

As Russia continues its war against Ukraine, Amnesty International is exposing violations of human rights and international humanitarian law.

www.amnesty.org

President Putin: Free Aleksei Navalny

www.amnesty.org

South Africa: Amnesty International joins Putin arrest warrant case as an amicus curiae

Amnesty International South Africa has been admitted as an amicus curiae, friend of the court, in the application for a declaratory order that if Russian President Vladimir Putin attends the BRICS Summit in South Africa due to take place in August, the South African authorities are obliged to...

www.amnesty.org

Human rights in Russia

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Russia with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

Fake news is alive and well. Who knew?

Incidentally did you know that the red cross is a Satanist cult? Hence the cross being red. And that.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I'd say keeping an eye on Iran is a good idea

The geriatric Islamonobs and their incel equivalent boy followers are lashing out at Israel to take people's eyes off their gynophobia.
The ****s.
Fund a war in Israel so we can man it about?
Into the f***ing sea with them.

 

[Pevenseagull]

I'd say keeping an eye on Iran is a good idea

I'd say murdering 1,500 children in your neighbouring land in 15 years and expecting their families to suck it up is a bad idea.