Albion Rob
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Bozza said:
I think Pinamonte ended up playing for Castel di Sangro, of The Miracle of Castel di Sangro fame. A top read that I can fully reccommend.
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Mickey Adams
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I think Pinamonte ended up playing for Castel di Sangro, of The Miracle of Castel di Sangro fame. A top read that I can fully reccommend.
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Adams, isn't even close to being a managerial legend at the club. I'd have Lloyd, Gritt, Horton, Coppell and McGhee above him and that's just over the recent years. [/B][/QUOTE]
Barry Lloyd.......you must be having a laugh !!
Adams, isn't even close to being a managerial legend at the club. I'd have Lloyd, Gritt, Horton, Coppell and McGhee above him and that's just over the recent years. [/B][/QUOTE]
Barry Lloyd.......you must be having a laugh !!
Uncle Buck
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Didn't Adams also get Brentford relegated and bailed out on Swansea after about 2 weeks incharge?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
KING RAT is getting exactly what he deserves and hopefully he will be sacked by Coventry and this over hyped arrogant, tin pot little man will dissapear into the obscurity his talents deserve.
Dover
Home at Last.
I'm not saying that Mickey was the best thing that happend to the club, but he did get us promotion, and left the nucleus of a side that won a second promotion.
Now he is at a new club, which have no, or little money, and what is this to us. Nothing.
I thank him for the time he spent here, but time has moved on. I for one now firmly belive we have the best manager we have had in my time following the club.
The king is dead. Long live the king.
Now he is at a new club, which have no, or little money, and what is this to us. Nothing.
I thank him for the time he spent here, but time has moved on. I for one now firmly belive we have the best manager we have had in my time following the club.
The king is dead. Long live the king.
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A Coventry fans thoughts on the game:
The talk afterwards largely focused on players not pulling their weight. But while that was obviously a factor, there were elements in Micky Adams's management which should attract concern. The continued preference for Steve Staunton at left back, for example. If, since Adams' return to Highfield Road, he hadn't noticed Staunton's lack of pace and absence of interest, he has surely noted it down now.
And Claus Jorgensen? By all accounts he was one of the bright spots at Preston. He got a goal, his delivery was good and his confidence seemed to have returned. One week later, he's on the bench. And when Stephen Hughes is injured, Neil Wood was asked to go on. Why?
Then there is the question which striker to play up front. Shall we play our joint top scorer? Or shall we get an on-loan midfield who is yet to impress to do the job? For some reason, Adams opted for the latter.
The talk afterwards largely focused on players not pulling their weight. But while that was obviously a factor, there were elements in Micky Adams's management which should attract concern. The continued preference for Steve Staunton at left back, for example. If, since Adams' return to Highfield Road, he hadn't noticed Staunton's lack of pace and absence of interest, he has surely noted it down now.
And Claus Jorgensen? By all accounts he was one of the bright spots at Preston. He got a goal, his delivery was good and his confidence seemed to have returned. One week later, he's on the bench. And when Stephen Hughes is injured, Neil Wood was asked to go on. Why?
Then there is the question which striker to play up front. Shall we play our joint top scorer? Or shall we get an on-loan midfield who is yet to impress to do the job? For some reason, Adams opted for the latter.
Arthur
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Like it or not Lloyd got us 90 mins away from playing in the top division.
Adams got us promoted from divison 3 and 4!!
Quantum said:
Like it or not Lloyd got us 90 mins away from playing in the top division.
Adams got us promoted from divison 3 and 4!!
Dick Knights Mumm
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I remember it as being DK who wanted Pinamonte.
But MA was a great manager for us - and whose legacy in terms of Kuipers, Carpenter, Oatway, and recently Cullip, we are still living partly off.
The question mark was always whether he could do it at a higher level, and I think the jury is still out. He did do well in his first season at Leicester - but when he had to start bringing his own players in - it all went tits up.
But MA was a great manager for us - and whose legacy in terms of Kuipers, Carpenter, Oatway, and recently Cullip, we are still living partly off.
The question mark was always whether he could do it at a higher level, and I think the jury is still out. He did do well in his first season at Leicester - but when he had to start bringing his own players in - it all went tits up.
Tom Bombadil
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Adams legacy is huge. He left players and a team spirit from which every subsequent manager has benefited. Yes he had a lot of money (relative to later managers) and he signed a few duds (Jamie Campell anyone) but where would we be this season without Oatway, Carpenter or Kuipers.
Pavilionaire
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The original question was "Where did this myth come from that Adams WAS one of the best managers around?"
Well, it wasn't a myth, it was a fact. Not only did Mickey build the foundations for the current side but he's also had success at other clubs, and he's still young for a manager. It's no surprise Leicester got relegated when they did because they had no money.
As for Coventry, Peter Reid is an experienced manager but couldn't halt their side towards the foot of the table. It will take Mickey 8 or 10 games before he starts turning things around.
My last point - Adams IS an Albion legend, end of story.
Well, it wasn't a myth, it was a fact. Not only did Mickey build the foundations for the current side but he's also had success at other clubs, and he's still young for a manager. It's no surprise Leicester got relegated when they did because they had no money.
As for Coventry, Peter Reid is an experienced manager but couldn't halt their side towards the foot of the table. It will take Mickey 8 or 10 games before he starts turning things around.
My last point - Adams IS an Albion legend, end of story.
Uncle Buck
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But then can be said about Coppell, Brady and Gritt, the teams they left were not as good as they were during their reigns. However circumstances (generally relegation) meant that they had to sell the best players and the fact we have been skint for as long as I can remember.
Quantum said:
But then can be said about Coppell, Brady and Gritt, the teams they left were not as good as they were during their reigns. However circumstances (generally relegation) meant that they had to sell the best players and the fact we have been skint for as long as I can remember.
Albion Rob
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Pavilionaire said:
I think events which have taken place since he left us have proven that the "Mickry is one of the best managers around" mantra was indeed a myth.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Blimey! Heaven help McGhee if he suffers the same level of knee-jerk revisionism from the muppets behind the dugout - and on here - if he dares go a third game without a point on Saturday.
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I am a touch suprised by some peoples views on MA. While I am an exiled supporter, I thought Adams' legend status was pretty much secure.
I do believe certain managers are better at certain levels and in certain situations. Maybe Adams is a lower league manager. His record in the lower leagues is after all excellent. Just because you cant mange a top team, doesn't necessarily preclude you from being a great manger. Dario Gradi has got to be regarded as a great manger for example.
Hoddle might be another example. In my neck of the woods (Wiltshire) you won't hear a bad word said about him because of what he acheived at Swindon. Quite clearly his range of skills doesn't extend to managing top class high wage earners.
And this is why Coaches don't make good managers (dare I say it - step forward our very own Jeff Wood and Martin Hinshelwood).
It works the other way as well - Howard Kendall springs to mind. Two championships, yet could do nothing with a club like Notts County.
It didn't work for MA at Leicester agreed, but all I'm saying is give the guy a few more than 5 games before judging him.
I do believe certain managers are better at certain levels and in certain situations. Maybe Adams is a lower league manager. His record in the lower leagues is after all excellent. Just because you cant mange a top team, doesn't necessarily preclude you from being a great manger. Dario Gradi has got to be regarded as a great manger for example.
Hoddle might be another example. In my neck of the woods (Wiltshire) you won't hear a bad word said about him because of what he acheived at Swindon. Quite clearly his range of skills doesn't extend to managing top class high wage earners.
And this is why Coaches don't make good managers (dare I say it - step forward our very own Jeff Wood and Martin Hinshelwood).
It works the other way as well - Howard Kendall springs to mind. Two championships, yet could do nothing with a club like Notts County.
It didn't work for MA at Leicester agreed, but all I'm saying is give the guy a few more than 5 games before judging him.
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Icy Gull
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Tom Hark said:
Except we didn't all think Adams walked on water, even when he was here. He did a great job whilst using us as a stepping stone, but as stated at the start of this thread he was given the finances to do it. If McGhee had had the same comparative level of investment that Adams got in his second season, I think we would by now be Premiership bound
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In a Brighton context only, Micky Adams was the best manager here for a long, long time, next comes McGhee, then Coppell then Taylor.
Above all MA brought us success, and his legacy is still here in the nucleus of players mentioned above and his brand of 'never say die' fighting spirit, which still lives on in the team today.
Above all MA brought us success, and his legacy is still here in the nucleus of players mentioned above and his brand of 'never say die' fighting spirit, which still lives on in the team today.
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Tom Bombadil
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Icy Gull said:Except we didn't all think Adams walked on water, even when he was here. He did a great job whilst using us as a stepping stone, but as stated at the start of this thread he was given the finances to do it. If McGhee had had the same comparative level of investment that Adams got in his second season, I think we would by now be Premiership bound
I think the truth of it is a certain section of the support never warmed to him, for whatever reason. I think you'll find there were a significant number who did rate him at he time