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Mickey Adams



Albion Rob

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Where did this myth come from that he was one of the best managers around?

He did well at Fulham and was shafted by Al-Fayed, fair enough.

He came to us and iverhauled the squad straight away, we came about 10th and had a decent season by our standards. He then overhauled the squad AGAIN and got us the title on what surely was the biggest (or maybe including Cardiff, second biggest) wage bill.

We were on the crest of a wave and got off to a smashing start the next season before he decided it was the club was going nowhere so he left to help Leicester get relegated.

So, he goes to Leicester, becomes manager the next season of a club on a high with a new ground and a board desperate to bring Premiership football to their shiny new arena. They give him an open cheque book, he signs all manner of top flight players (Ian Walker, Frank Sinclair, to name a couple) and then gets them promoted.

In the top flight they are abject and relegation is vrtually assured from about November.

He then has another try at rejigging his squad but this time the money isn't there to the same degree and the players won't come to a yo-yo club and so Leicester struggle.

He is now at Coventry who have an awesome record of five defeats on the bounce when they should be trying to impress their new leader and look like being one of the sides who are going to prevent us from playing league one football next year.

Now, I thank Mickey for everything he did at this club because he gave us one-and-a-bit seasons of glory that I personally had never seen before, but how good is he really?

When the money is there and his side are relatively big fish in smallish ponds, he seems able to 'work wonders' but when it cuts up rough, he has been found wanting on a few occasions now.

The proof will be in the pudding - Will he keep Coventry up?
 
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rool

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Jul 10, 2003
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He has proved more than once that he is a capable Div 3/ League 2 manager. Maybe that's how good he is.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
To be fair, with the exception of only a very few, it is easy to destroy almost every manager's CV in that way. Equally, you can paint a very rosy picture of the same bloke:

Got Fulham promoted
Got Brighton promoted
Discovered Bobby Zamora
Got Leicester promoted
And just one relegation - not a disgrace by any means.
 








rool

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Jul 10, 2003
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Mind you don't say anything about him or the team whilst taking a leak.

Eh Simster :thumbsup:
 






hutchings (48)

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Dec 2, 2004
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I think its too early to judge Adams at Coventry. He obviously inherited a side that was on the slide, and he hasn't had the opportunity to bring 'his ' players in yet.

I just dont think managers are given long enough to prove themselves. There are obvious exeptions to this like Jose Mourinho, but just think how different the Man Ure storey would have neen if the board hadn't have stuck by Fergie in the late 80's.

Judging a manager after coming in mid season is wrong. Even a whole season is too short. I dont believe thats enough time to build up a side that the manager actually wants, and to make the changes to the clubs culture, like strengthening the youth set up for example.

Leicester is a blemish on Adams' CV, but it does sem as though he was dealt a bad hand there - administration, La Manga etc.

Adams is up for a relegation scrap. I reckon he will keep them up (although hopefully not at Albions expense) and I wouldn't be suprised to see them challenging for the play of places next season.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Personal tragedy for MA that he didn't hang around another six months and add a second successive Championship with the Albion to his CV. The job offers would have come thick and fast then.
 




Arthur

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Jul 8, 2003
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Albion Rob said:
Where did this myth come from that he was one of the best managers around?

He did well at Fulham and was shafted by Al-Fayed, fair enough.

He came to us and iverhauled the squad straight away, we came about 10th and had a decent season by our standards. He then overhauled the squad AGAIN and got us the title on what surely was the biggest (or maybe including Cardiff, second biggest) wage bill.

We were on the crest of a wave and got off to a smashing start the next season before he decided it was the club was going nowhere so he left to help Leicester get relegated.

So, he goes to Leicester, becomes manager the next season of a club on a high with a new ground and a board desperate to bring Premiership football to their shiny new arena. They give him an open cheque book, he signs all manner of top flight players (Ian Walker, Frank Sinclair, to name a couple) and then gets them promoted.

In the top flight they are abject and relegation is vrtually assured from about November.

He then has another try at rejigging his squad but this time the money isn't there to the same degree and the players won't come to a yo-yo club and so Leicester struggle.

He is now at Coventry who have an awesome record of five defeats on the bounce when they should be trying to impress their new leader and look like being one of the sides who are going to prevent us from playing league one football next year.

Now, I thank Mickey for everything he did at this club because he gave us one-and-a-bit seasons of glory that I personally had never seen before, but how good is her really?

When the money is there and his side are relatively big fish in smallish ponds, he seems able to 'work wonders' but when it cuts up rough, he has been found wanting on a few occasions now.

The proof will be in the pudding - Will he keep Coventry up?

Spot on, agree 100%.

You also forgot to mention the bloke was an arrogant little shit who treated us (the fans) like crap!!

When ever the team was poor it wasn't down to his dodgy tactics it was because the fans got on the players backs.

Hopefully, Coventry will go down, not because I dislike them or because it's another place we won't fill but because it'll continue to show Adams for the two bob manager he is.

You can say he discovered Zamora, which is fair enough. Zamora cost 100k which in thrid division standards is millions, if we hadn't won the league that year there would have had to be serious questions asked. No one else in the leageu spent any money all season!! He also forced one of the most skillful players (Rod Thomas) out of the club because he couldn't manage his ego. If Adams were to come back here now the first thing he'd do is get rid of Leon Knight.

Adams, isn't even close to being a managerial legend at the club. I'd have Lloyd, Gritt, Horton, Coppell and McGhee above him and that's just over the recent years.
 


Albion Rob

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fourthteamtillidie said:
obviously not a fan then? personally i would take him back any day (NB only if MM decides his future lies elsewhere.)

Generally attacking football, always trys to win the game... etc

I quite liked him when he was here. He had no interest in sticking around long, which doesn't generally bother me but the way he touted himself to Southampton that summer was bad.

I agree with an earlier comment that he is a good lower division manger.
 






Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Tom Hark said:
Personal tragedy for MA that he didn't hang around another six months and add a second successive Championship with the Albion to his CV. The job offers would have come thick and fast then.

Not convinced he would have done it. Taylor defensive nous and Zamora's ability to play the lone striker was the difference in the 2nd Championship season.

We were nowhere near the best team that season and Adams is not good enough tactically to have pulled it off imo.
 






Ex Shelton Seagull

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Jul 7, 2003
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Didn't Adams want to sign Lorenzo Pinamonte? He got him in on loan but he turned us down to sign for Bristol City. Or was it Brentford?. Whatever, in desperation for a striker he got Zamora on loan, who at the time had just finished a loan spell at Bath City.

Wonder how we would have got on if Lorenzo hadn't turned us down.
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Ex Shelton Seagull said:
Didn't Adams want to sign Lorenzo Pinamonte? He got him in on loan but he turned us down to sign for Bristol City. Or was it Brentford?. Whatever, in desperation for a striker he got Zamora on loan, who at the time had just finished a loan spell at Bath City.

Wonder how we would have got on if Lorenzo hadn't turned us down.

Absolutely, I've said it many times before - Micky wanted to sign Pinamonte but Noades was determined to get him so came up with better terms, if I recall correctly, and he went to Brentford. We then got Zamora on loan and the rest, as they say, is history.

After Brentford, Pinamonte ended up at Orient before disappearing off the map and I truly do not believe we'd be where we are if Adams had got his man.
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Ex Shelton Seagull said:
Didn't Adams want to sign Lorenzo Pinamonte? .

And so did just about every Brighton fan, he was being being discussed as if he was the footballing Messiah as far as I remember. How were we to know that the true footballing Messiah was on loan at Bath City, honing his skills, at the time ???
 
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