Bevendean Hillbilly
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I never thought I'd be interested in anything he had to say but I'm hoping he gives the remain camp a massive broadside in a little while......
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Michael Gove about to speak...
- Thread starter Bevendean Hillbilly
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This should see a few move move to the remain camp
In terms of PR, the Brexit lot don't help themselves. Is there a man with a more "punch me and never stop punching me" face than Michael Gove? Having him involved in the 'Clean for the Queen' campaign made me want to go flytipping on the South Downs...
Don't forget Galloway!
darkwolf666
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Damn, didn't realise that tw@t was supporting the leave campaign, that's sure to change a few people's minds as he is detestable.
JC Footy Genius
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- Jun 9, 2015
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Authoritative, witty, convincing, an excellent speech covering all the substantive issues with intellectual rigour and gravitas.
For those more interested in the trivialities of who we like/dislike may I present Osborne, Hunt, Corbyn, Abbott, all on your side of the fence
The Birdman
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I agree it's good a treason to stay in Europe
severnside gull
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Never seen a total bell end who looked more like a total bell end than Michael "life of privilege" Gove.
Then to confirm it he opens his mouth and the silver spoon falls out along with his usual drivel of ill-informed, wholly unexplained and totally unjustified crap masquerading as "the truth"............ complete and utter tosser
Then to confirm it he opens his mouth and the silver spoon falls out along with his usual drivel of ill-informed, wholly unexplained and totally unjustified crap masquerading as "the truth"............ complete and utter tosser
n1 gull
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Authoritative, witty, convincing, an excellent speech covering all the substantive issues with intellectual rigour and gravitas.
For those more interested in the trivialities of who we like/dislike may I present Osborne, Hunt, Corbyn, Abbott, all on your side of the fence
Don't forget Blair and Cameron
Except that's not actually true, is it?
1) Osborne asked a specific question: Why would Germany and France agree to giving the UK an EU-relationship deal that would be better than the one they’ve got themselves? If EU states were to agree to this, there would be no point in any of the other 27 states staying in. Gove didn't answer it and just took as as given that they would
2) Not one mention of import/export duties. His speech is online HERE and I've searched myself - he literally ignores that question completely too.
One thing he did do, that I haven't seen from anyone else on the Out campaign, is to give us a clue which model he actually wants after leaving: he implies (though I think he still doesn't state it explicitly) that he doesn't want to be part of the single market - in fact he kind of implied he'd be fine if the whole thing collapsed. That's a start at least - but how many others in the Leave camp will hang on to the Norway model?
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Interesting reading, should put your silver spoon comment to bed. Seems like he worked to get where he is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gove#Early_life_and_career_outside_Parliament
severnside gull
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If I wrote a Wikipedia page it might give a very different spin. He was brought up in what the vast majority would consider relative privilege which he and his backers have worked to underplay and has subsequently adopted the mantle big time. An unpleasant man and the consequences of his ever attaining his self ambition would be grim for those who don't fit in to his view of worthfulness
gregbrighton
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Gove is a tossbag just like the other weirdo Tory numpty Brexiters.
Murray 17
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I despised him when he was the Education Secretary. I'm backing him now though!
JC Footy Genius
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I'm sure Gove would know that Germany and France relationship with the Eu is judged on a very different criteria to ours as they are founding members and fully signed up to ever closer Union.Trade comes a poor second to the political project. Which sort of invalidates the question, as being outside this wonderful institution automatically place us at a terrible disadvantage (according to them) which is why no answer was given?
He can't set out what the specifics of import export duties would be as that is entirely dependant on future negotiations, He can only set out the broad terms of the possible benefits of Brexit which I know is frustrating but better than making stupid definitive claims like we will always be worse of outside the EU.
Saying that I would have liked the Leave side to set out a clearer template with firm commitments which we can hold them to if we vote out.
Crispy Ambulance
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Pardew - all day long!
Pogue Mahone
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- Apr 30, 2011
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I despised him then, too. He has done nothing, and said nothing to alter my view of him.
As [MENTION=256]DTES[/MENTION] posted earlier, he ignores all the important questions. Any analysis done that gives positive reasons why staying in Europe would be good for us is dismissed as scaremongering. No evidence is ever given as to why leaving would be good for us, financially and strategically.
But him, Boris, Galloway and Farage...bloody Hell, what a dream team.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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I loved him when he was a Times columnist. I'm loathing him now though!