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Falcao scored 5 tonight, that'll put his price up a bit.

I read tonight that in 2009 while managing Aston Villa, Martin O'Neill turned down the chance to sign Falcao in favour of a move for Emile Heskey.
 




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Ridiculous to even compare them. Messi is universes ahead.

Out of interest how did you come to this idea? I must admit I'm not an expert on Muller but he was a very different type of player. I do not think you can compare them; all you can do is compare stats and medals and accept and enjoy both of their outragous talent.
 




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13 wins and 1 draw from 14 games is just utterly vile and filthy.

Mono tenis liga

If Mueller and Messi were contemporaries, I reckon Messi would have smashed any records up for grabs

How many had Messi scored after 60 Games? Surely the only way to compare them is like for like. If Mueller scored his record in fewer games, Messi should be compared on the same number of games.
 


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Mono tenis liga



How many had Messi scored after 60 Games? Surely the only way to compare them is like for like. If Mueller scored his record in fewer games, Messi should be compared on the same number of games.


10 goals in his last 7, so 76 in first 60 games of 2012.
 




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10 goals in his last 7, so 76 in first 60 games of 2012.

Incredible statistics whatever the era, and whatever the comparison.

My memory of Gerd Muller is that he was an unbelievably good goal-scorer who didn't do much else. Absolutely clinical, but not one to get involved in build up play.

Messi, meanwhile, is the heartbeat of Barcelona, creating as many as he scores. So a better player, though not necessarily a better goal-scorer.
 


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I think he has already broken the record by one goal?. And this year he also broke football's history record of most goals in one season with a total of over 70. I think a scottish player held the record from 1929.
 


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How many had Messi scored after 60 Games? Surely the only way to compare them is like for like. If Mueller scored his record in fewer games, Messi should be compared on the same number of games.

I was more thinking if Messi played against 1972 defences, and Mueller played against 2012 defences, Messi would come out on top numerically
 




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I think you're all missing someone here fellas. Messi is nothing when compared to Brighton's very own Paul Molden: Born in Farnworth, near Bolton, Lancashire, as a youth Moulden entered the Guinness Book of Records by scoring 340 goals in a single season for Bolton Lads Club under-15s (wikipedia)

Only another 254 to go Lionel.
 


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I was more thinking if Messi played against 1972 defences, and Mueller played against 2012 defences, Messi would come out on top numerically

..and why has Muller become Mueller. Am I missing something?
 












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..and why has Muller become Mueller. Am I missing something?

The e is added to the spelling in place of a non-umlauted u on it's own, to add the y effect needed for a correct pronunciation

So, Myool-er, and not Mool-a

:smile:
 


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Herr Tubthumper

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Playing against more than one other team a season who can compete with Barca?

So he'd be swopping a two-horse race for a three horse-race?
 




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The e is added to the spelling in place of a non-umlauted u on it's own, to add the y effect needed for a correct pronunciation

So, Myool-er, and not Mool-a

:smile:

I'm not convinced by this.
 


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I'm not convinced by this.

Wikipedia:

In other languages that do not have the letter as part of the regular alphabet or in limited character sets such as ASCII, U-umlaut is frequently replaced with the two-letter combination "ue".
 


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