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Men convicted of homophobic and racist attacks



Puppet Master

non sequitur
Aug 14, 2012
4,056
The mum of one of these convicted thugs is commenting in that Argus thread, claiming a miscarriage of justice. Then someone drops the bombshell about her own, alleged, benefits fraud. Putting paid to her depiction of a decent background.

Has she commented since that? Seems to have gone awfully quiet
 




W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
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Horrible little runts. Doesn't seem to be much to counter arguments of their innocence.

Still, it's nice to see Bushy and Looney pop up as per, to try and turn the situation around. Text book link from Bushy to further his agenda. Top work.
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,911
Melbourne
Horrible little runts. Doesn't seem to be much to counter arguments of their innocence.

Still, it's nice to see Bushy and Looney pop up as per, to try and turn the situation around. Text book link from Bushy to further his agenda. Top work.
Do you think that violence against black people by white people is automatically racially motivated?
 


W.C.

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Oct 31, 2011
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Do you think that violence against black people by white people is automatically racially motivated?

ha! And now here you are to complete the set.
I'll tell you what I do think, which has nothing to do with your question as it's just another attempt to turn the thread on it's head, and that's that here we have a thread about 3 horrible little scrotes. They've attacked two people. Witnesses are on hand (well done that lady) and the judge has stated he is satisfied that the attacks are hate related. Case looks pretty much closed. We've then got a side show of mates/family of the 3 amigos, all shouting about the facts; mum gets exposed as a benefit fraudster and another charming individual casually tells of how he stabbed 2 guys. All clearly lovely people and honest as the day is long. Thread appears on here, it's a LOCAL story, within 1 page the race police are on here checking what's being said. Tedious. Although, top marks for persistence.
 


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One thing is for sure, Sussex in general has become a lot more dangerous. It's not necessarily the numbers of crimes, but the severity of them that worries me the most.
One example could be the numbers of reported rapes / attempted rapes and stabbings that I have read about in The Argus this year. I'm certain it never used to be this bad.
 




BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
7,139
One thing is for sure, Sussex in general has become a lot more dangerous. It's not necessarily the numbers of crimes, but the severity of them that worries me the most.
One example could be the numbers of reported rapes / attempted rapes and stabbings that I have read about in The Argus this year. I'm certain it never used to be this bad.

Wooooah, Sussex/Brighton has always had its fair share of incident, this absolutely does not indicate a deterioration of he likelihood of crime against us.

I use Brighton still, with my wife for pubs and restaurants and it is as safe as you could expect, actually never felt truly threatened, generally a really laid back environment.

I grew up in the 70's and 80's and life seemed far more violent in so many aspects, everything seemed tribal, football violence, punks, mods, skinheads, inter school violence, club violence between punters and the bouncers too.

This relatively small incident doesnt offer anything more than that.
 


W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
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One thing is for sure, Sussex in general has become a lot more dangerous. It's not necessarily the numbers of crimes, but the severity of them that worries me the most.
One example could be the numbers of reported rapes / attempted rapes and stabbings that I have read about in The Argus this year. I'm certain it never used to be this bad.

In the last year or so I've read a fair few articles and stats that crime, particularly violent crime, has been decreasing for years. I think it peaked in the 80s? Yet many of us feel the opposite. Strange innit?
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
One thing is for sure, Sussex in general has become a lot more dangerous. It's not necessarily the numbers of crimes, but the severity of them that worries me the most.
One example could be the numbers of reported rapes / attempted rapes and stabbings that I have read about in The Argus this year. I'm certain it never used to be this bad.

In the last year or so I've read a fair few articles and stats that crime, particularly violent crime, has been decreasing for years. I think it peaked in the 80s? Yet many of us feel the opposite. Strange innit?

You need to take the increase in Argus stories about crime with a pinch of salt. They now rely on police and fire brigade tweets to write many stories - that's what happens when you sack a large number of your local staff and move a good chunk of your operations to Southampton.
 




wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
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Melbourne
ha! And now here you are to complete the set.
I'll tell you what I do think, which has nothing to do with your question as it's just another attempt to turn the thread on it's head, and that's that here we have a thread about 3 horrible little scrotes. They've attacked two people. Witnesses are on hand (well done that lady) and the judge has stated he is satisfied that the attacks are hate related. Case looks pretty much closed. We've then got a side show of mates/family of the 3 amigos, all shouting about the facts; mum gets exposed as a benefit fraudster and another charming individual casually tells of how he stabbed 2 guys. All clearly lovely people and honest as the day is long. Thread appears on here, it's a LOCAL story, within 1 page the race police are on here checking what's being said. Tedious. Although, top marks for persistence.

Was that an American Smooth or a Waltz you did then?
 




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May 9, 2008
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Haywards Heath
Horrible little runts. Doesn't seem to be much to counter arguments of their innocence.

Still, it's nice to see Bushy and Looney pop up as per, to try and turn the situation around. Text book link from Bushy to further his agenda. Top work.

I haven't commented on the original story at all , so I'm at a loss as to how you think I'm trying to 'turn the situation around'.
I've commented on the apparent lack of will to class crimes against white people by ethnic minorities as racially aggravated,as opposed to when the situation is reversed .
I also commented on the lazy assumption by one poster (without a shred of evidence or him knowing anything about the case) that another crime in the comments section was racially motivated , you , as usual have given the myopic, pavlovian response I've come to expect whenever your airy fairy view of race and associated crimes is questioned.
 












Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Scum. If it wasn't racism or homophobia they were jailed for it'd be something along the line. Benefit fraud perhaps.
 


Surf's Up

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Jul 17, 2011
10,435
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I see that David Stockdale has warned Fulham (or "The Cottagers" as they like to be known as) to watch their backs on Saturday. Shirley this is a veiled reference to our ill deserved reputation as a bunch of Nancy's? bit ironic too given Fulham's nickname!
 


piersa

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Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
"when I stabbed two black guys, it was put down as a racist attack!"

Can't think why.

Sadly, we have now been socialised led to believe that any conflict between two ethnically different people is racially motivated. A really sad indictment of our society.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
given the age of the three "scrotes" , the fact that the victim was eastern european and that the gay gentlemans phone was stolen , i doubt that there was much pure ," racial" or "homophobic" intent behind these attacks......unlike the muslim ladies who walked free because they were not used to alcohol.......you can argue all day and all night but these two cases and the contrasting sentences clearly show what a confused and "rattled" system is operating in England at the current time.
 




father_and_son

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2012
4,652
Under the Police Box
In the last year or so I've read a fair few articles and stats that crime, particularly violent crime, has been decreasing for years. I think it peaked in the 80s? Yet many of us feel the opposite. Strange innit?


I have also noted that Zombie Apocalypses are at an all time low with NONE reported in the past decade. However, I put it to you that Fear of a Zombie Apocalypse is at an all time high. Not sure what the solution to this particular conundrum is though!
 


father_and_son

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2012
4,652
Under the Police Box
One thing is for sure, Sussex in general has become a lot more dangerous. It's not necessarily the numbers of crimes, but the severity of them that worries me the most.
One example could be the numbers of reported rapes / attempted rapes and stabbings that I have read about in The Argus this year. I'm certain it never used to be this bad.


Fishing?? It's pretty well accepted by most that the apparent increase in the number of rapes/attempted rapes is down to a greater willingness to report than the actual crime taking place more often. As with most crime, a significant proportion has always gone unreported but there are regular studies into people's past experiences that try to establish the proportion of crime which is reported and therefore whether any increases (or decreases) seen are down to reporting bias or an underlying trend. Unfortunately, some respected scientific journals such as "the Argus" often forgo this essential statistical analysis!
 


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