Meeting re. Parking at Elm Grove School.

[Dover]

Now yesterday evening, but 500 people attended the meeting. Of these only five or so were for the proposed parking restrictions, and none of the Councillors who are proposing a full parking restriction in the area attended.

The meeting became large enough that it was moved to the school playground and there was still a few standing on the pavement outside the school.

 

[Notters]

The trouble is, there's such a constant flow of population that area that it would be incredibly complex and expensive to manage.

 

[Tory Boy]

What will happen is the residents of the southern section of the zone will vote for it to be rid of American Express staff parking, and the residents of the northern section will not vote for it.

Which will lead to a situation where all American Express staff parking will move up to the area that didn't vote for parking restrictions, whilst leaving the people living nearest to American Express with big fat smiles on their faces.

TB

 

[Dover]

Just in case anyone want's to have a look here is the link..

Hanover Hove City Council

Also blog report in The Argus..

Hundreds of residents say no to permits From The Argus)

 

[surrey jim]

What will happen is the residents of the southern section of the zone will vote for it to be rid of American Express staff parking, and the residents of the northern section will not vote for it.

Which will lead to a situation where all American Express staff parking will move up to the area that didn't vote for parking restrictions, whilst leaving the people living nearest to American Express with big fat smiles on their faces.

TB

Espically worse at the moment as the staff car park at Amex is currently a building site for the new Amex building

 

[pasty]

If they hadn't f***ed about with parking in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem. I live in Freshfield Road, and some time ago the council introduced a residents zone that goes up as far as St Lukes Terrace. We live above that, so now evey bugger parks above the zone and we can never get a space. There was NEVER an issue parking in Freshfield Road UNTIL the residents scheme was introduced. Stupid bastards.

 

[Deleted User X18H]

If they hadn't f***ed about with parking in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem. I live in Freshfield Road, and some time ago the council introduced a residents zone that goes up as far as St Lukes Terrace. We live above that, so now evey bugger parks above the zone and we can never get a space. There was NEVER an issue parking in Freshfield Road UNTIL the residents scheme was introduced. Stupid bastards.

This. I believe is the concern on Tivoli Crescent near me, that road is above the border of Zone A

Listen if they decide in that council chamber that 'Parking Restrictions' are going to happen then they will irrespective of resident opinion.

Its a massive cash cow at £106 per year a pop.Mears group get the gig re road markings etc! You do the math

 

[Dover]

One of the "No Voters" had a document with him that stated the bay markings are illegal and therefore the tickets are technically unenforceable all over Brighton & Hove.

I know a Warden and will check this out.

 

[desprateseagull]

why dont B/H council just come clean- they hate cars, ban them all NOW!

or are they being 'sponsored', by driveway building contractors..? plenty front gardens been coverted up my way..

 

[Dover]

One of the "No Voters" had a document with him that stated the bay markings are illegal and therefore the tickets are technically unenforceable all over Brighton & Hove.

I know a Warden and will check this out.

Partially true. Most of the bays are illegally marked.

 

[Acker79]

I'm confused, was the meeting about parking in general and held just held at elm grove school for whatever reason, or was the meeting about the parking around elm gove school?

 

[surrey jim]

I'm confused, was the meeting about parking in general and held just held at elm grove school for whatever reason, or was the meeting about the parking around elm gove school?

About extending the residents parking area in Elm grove. Just held at school as I assume it had the largest hall available.

 

[Acker79]

About extending the residents parking area in Elm grove. Just held at school as I assume it had the largest hall available.

Ah. Thanks.

 

[Dover]

I'm confused, was the meeting about parking in general and held just held at elm grove school for whatever reason, or was the meeting about the parking around elm gove school?

The council wish to make a huge area, basically from Freshfeild Road to Lewes Road and down to Hartington Road permit parking. The no vote was overwhelming with only five people in support.

Various petitions are in some of the local shops (nearest here are Stan's and Ladbrokes) but they may not be recognised by the council. Councillor Theobold declined to attend the meeting, who is in control of the scheme.

 

[Uncle C]

why dont B/H council just come clean- they hate cars, ban them all NOW!..

Seems the voters have some sympathy for this - didn't they just vote in the Green Party

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Theobald wants resisdents parking city wide and so will force it through.

 

[The Large One]

Seems the voters have some sympathy for this - didn't they just vote in the Green Party

As an MP. Dr Lucas has no direct influence on Council decisions.

Plus, Brighton & Hove City Council is a Tory-led (not Tory-controlled) council. I'm not aware of any specific car-bashing policies coming in from them since they took over.

 

[Jahooli]

I'm just filling in the form now with a long type written list of objections to stick into the "any other comments" box, there is not enough room otherwise (there is more space given over to multi choice questions about my sex and ethnicity).

They have also given two choices in another question:
Which of the following days of operation do ytou think should apply to the parking scheme? Please tick one box only.
Monday to Saturday.
Monday to Sunday.


I don't want to tick either as each is unacceptable to me, I want to put another box in saying No change to parking restrictions.

Will this make my questionnaire void?
If it is only a questionairre are they obliged to act as the majority have wished?
It's not really a vote is it?

My guess is they'll do what they want anyway and just sort of look on this exercise as some sort of bullshit resident-placebo-painkiller.

 

[Uncle C]

As an MP. Dr Lucas has no direct influence on Council decisions.

I'm not saying she does, but I'm merely pointing out that a large number of people in the city must be in favour of greener measures ie less cars.

 

[The Large One]

I'm not saying she does, but I'm merely pointing out that a large number of people in the city must be in favour of greener measures ie less cars.

One would have thought so, but I'm not convinced that's the whole story.

Fewer cars - yes, but it's more about the 'unnecessary' car journey. How is that defined? You can use your own yardstick, but I would say that, as someone living between Fiveways and Preston Park, I can rarely justify driving our car into the city centre.

Certainly, fewer cars in the centre of the city, such as in the North Laine, adds to the sense of community it has there. However, I am astounded little has been done about cars and traffic in Hanover, especially with the ridiculously narrow two-way streets.

The obvious primary green measure is more, better, cheaper public transport. But that's a debate that's been done to death on here. And then some.