[Politics] May - In or Out?

[beorhthelm]

Weren't you paying attention at the last general election? That is exactly what the Tories assumed back then.

They conducted the most arrogant campaign I've ever seen where May didn't feel the need to appear on a leaders TV debate and all any Tory said was "if you don't vote for us you'll get that nasty Jeremy Corbyn". It was pathetic - that is no way to pander to undecided people looking for a reason to vote Conservative.

you have to give some credit to one of the most turgid manifestos ever, a real call to armchairs.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Why, oh why wasn’t this dealt with, with an all parties strategy instead of this endless political point scoring. It’s about the long term future of the country not some short term political careers.

Ah.....I wish.
The referendum in 2016 was an anti-establishment vote, as was the election of Trump. The establishment needed to wrest back an element of control and it was imperative for them to keep a foothold in the EU. They knew they could steer and manipulate May in their direction and that it would result in a compromise that suited them and avoided a clean break. It was in their interest that negotiations were kept under wraps for as long as possible and then, when the outcome was announced and chaos ensued, they could use pressure to keep steering people in their favoured direction.
There should have been a cross-party Brexit department to deal with this, so lines of communication were kept open to everybody and early, potential issues could be flagged up but of course that wouldn't have suited the power brokers.
The referendum result and the election of Trump were huge messages from vast swathes of people that they were sick and tired of political self-interest, exploitation, greed and indifference to grass roots needs. They saw nothing changing for the better. They demanded change and still expect change. Whether it will be delivered is another matter.

 

[Titanic]

Oh dear...

 

[Titanic]

I wish [MENTION=36]Titanic[/MENTION] was still around

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[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] I know single polls are not really worth the chip wrappers they are printed on... but this one is almost unbelievable in the circumstances:

Times / YouGov VI

CON 39% (-2)
LAB 36% (-1)
LDEM 8% (nc)
UKIP 6% (+2)
Fieldwork 18/19 Nov

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...h8uvy0x/TheTimes_181119_VI_Trackers_bpc_w.pdf

 

[Chicken Run]

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] I know single polls are not really worth the chip wrappers they are printed on... but this one is almost unbelievable in the circumstances:

Times / YouGov VI

CON 39% (-2)
LAB 36% (-1)
LDEM 8% (nc)
UKIP 6% (+2)
Fieldwork 18/19 Nov

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...h8uvy0x/TheTimes_181119_VI_Trackers_bpc_w.pdf

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The current incarnation of the Labour Party are ****ing pathetic!

 

[Geestar]

In

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[CHAPPERS]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-fire-over-commonwealth-deportations-windrush

Pressure is building on the Home Office over its failure to find 49 people deported to Commonwealth countries and inform them of the Windrush taskforce amid warnings that they may have been wrongfully expelled.

The group, which had been held in UK detention centres, were flown to Ghana and Nigeria between March and September last year, before the Windrush scandal erupted.

Disgraceful.

 

[golddene]

It's all on the May deal now, lose and she should go!

 

[pork pie]

It's all on the May deal now, lose and she should go!

She has no deal though. She has just kicked the can down the road, and lost our control of the situation for "intentions".