May Has 10 days.

[Herr Tubthumper]

I also think Boris would be a popular leader and connect with people.

He can't connect with all of his own party so he certainly can't do this with the nation. Way too divisive.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Maybe because 100 billion deficit wasn't the best starting point.

I agree. The levels of debt racked up by Cameron and Osborne were eye watering and never seen before. They took borrowing to a whole new level. On this I feel sorry for May.

 

[larus]

He can't connect with all of his own party so he certainly can't do this with the nation. Way too divisive.

Hmm, winning the Mayoral vote would clearly dispel your biased opinion.

 

[Live by the sea]

As 'live by the sea" is obviously an expert on the subject, could he please explain to me in simple terms what a Marxist is without relying on quoting internet links?

Sure, very simply it the opposite of Capitalism, which is how the system of governing the rest of the Western world uses. A few South American countries have in the past had Marxist leaderships with disastrous consequences. I have have nothing against Labour, in fact I have consistently voted for them in the past. BUT Corbyn is dangerous, he is extreme left wing and anyone extreme left or right is always bad news.

#corbynnotfitforleadership.

 

[larus]

I agree. The levels of debt racked up by Cameron and Osborne were eye watering and never seen before. They took borrowing to a whole new level. On this I feel sorry for May.

No, the problem was the cluster-f*ck caused on Labours watch. The annual percentage deficit was frightening. Good old "New Labour", same as old Labour. Socialism fails when it runs out of other people's money to spend.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Quite possibly.........think she is a future leader for sure.

Except she's far too moderate for many tory mps

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No, the problem was the cluster-f*ck caused on Labours watch. The annual percentage deficit was frightening. Good old "New Labour", same as old Labour. Socialism fails when it runs out of other people's money to spend.

Total rubbish. Take a look at any graph of UK public debt and you'll see you're talking nonsense. Also take a look at Osborne's quotes about bringing budget under control and paying off the debt. He failed every single one of his self imposed targets.

 

[larus]

Total rubbish. Take a look at any graph of UK public debt and you'll see you're talking nonsense. Also take a look at Osborne's quotes about bringing budget under control and paying off the debt. He failed every single one of his self imposed targets.

Oh dear. Seems like you don't understand the difference between deficit and debt.



As you can see, the ANNUAL deficit inherited from LABOUR was huge. The Tories have gradually reduced this, but one of the main problems for the UK has been the poor performance of the EU area (yes, I know Germany has been doing well, but this is a separate structural problem for the Eurozone), so I will leave other people to decide if the Tories inherited a cluster-f*ck from Labour.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Hmm, winning the Mayoral vote would clearly dispel your biased opinion.

I'd say it backs up my argument. Boris' wasn't much liked by central London and his election strategy was to concentrate on the outer zones. He did this successfully but it demonstrated he wasn't able to bring London together. You could also argue Livingstone was the exact opposite ie he was only popular in zone 1. Either way the London mayoral post isn't a great borometer for broad and wide reaching popularity.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Oh dear. Seems like you don't understand the difference between deficit and debt.

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As you can see, the ANNUAL deficit inherited from LABOUR was huge. The Tories have gradually reduced this, but one of the main problems for the UK has been the poor performance of the EU area (yes, I know Germany has been doing well, but this is a separate structural problem for the Eurozone), so I will leave other people to decide if the Tories inherited a cluster-f*ck from Labour.

Why are you providing projected figures from 2013? We're already in 2017.

 

[Diego Napier]

If I could choose, I'd choose Ruth Davidson. I think she is young enough and comes across very well. I would very much hope that being Scottish and gay would not go against her wih the Tory 'establishment'. She would give them a huge boost IMO.

I also think Boris would be a popular leader and connect with people. Before people start the usual buffoon type comments, he won the Mayoral election in London which tends to be more a Labour area. And, from what I've read/heard, his did OK. I've not heard of complaints about incompetence etc.

The thing to bear in mind (IMO) is that the majority of the population do not give a f*ck about politics. So, someone like Boris who people find amusing, can laugh at himself and is not 'on message' all of the time will be a breath of fresh air. Look around the world and see that people are disillusioned with the spin, lies and confrontational style of politics.

Ruth Davidson or Boris Johnson? Not exactly two peas in a pod eh? If that's the best you can scrape up then the barrel must be nigh on dry.

Your earnest straw-clutching spin demonstrates clearly how wedded you are to the tories, bringing to mind Wilde's quote about marriage:-

"The triumph of imagination over intelligence".

He goes on - "A second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience".

You're clearly in it for the long haul, regardless of the number of partners.

 

[larus]

I'd say it backs up my argument. Boris' wasn't much liked by central London and his election strategy was to concentrate on the outer zones. He did this successfully but it demonstrated he wasn't able to bring London together. You could also argue Livingstone was the exact opposite ie he was only popular in zone 1. Either way the London mayoral post isn't a great borometer for broad and wide reaching popularity.

I'd say I'd doesn't back you argument. He was able to reach out beyond Tory voters to those not that interested in politics. Again, you won't agree as all Tories are scum, nasty c*nts who need fleecing. We get it.

 

[Boys 9d]

Sure, very simply it the opposite of Capitalism, which is how the system of governing the rest of the Western world uses. A few South American countries have in the past had Marxist leaderships with disastrous consequences. I have have nothing against Labour, in fact I have consistently voted for them in the past. BUT Corbyn is dangerous, he is extreme left wing and anyone extreme left or right is always bad news.
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In what ways is it opposite to Capitalism or come to that what is Capitalism?

 

[larus]

Why are you providing projected figures from 2013? We're already in 2017.

Because it proves the crap state the Labout administration left if in. Jeez, you are quite slow at times really aren't you

 

[larus]

Ruth Davidson or Boris Johnson? Not exactly two peas in a pod eh? If that's the best you can scrape up then the barrel must be nigh on dry.

Your earnest straw-clutching spin demonstrates clearly how wedded you are to the tories, bringing to mind Wilde's quote about marriage:-

"The triumph of imagination over intelligence".

He goes on - "A second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience".

You're clearly in it for the long haul, regardless of the number of partners.

Whatever. Your blinkered opinion is irrelevant. I could say anyone and you'd have the same tailored response. At least I don't support a party whose leader condoned the killing of his own countries troops.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Because it proves the crap state the Labout administration left if in. Jeez, you are quite slow at times really aren't you

Willfully excluding up to date Tory figures for comparison proves this?

 

[Diego Napier]

Whatever. Your blinkered opinion is irrelevant. I could say anyone and you'd have the same tailored response. At least I don't support a party whose leader condoned the killing of his own countries troops.

Neither do I.

You're rather dimmer and a lot angrier than I'd originally imagined.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'd say I'd doesn't back you argument. He was able to reach out beyond Tory voters to those not that interested in politics. Again, you won't agree as all Tories are scum, nasty c*nts who need fleecing. We get it.

Whatever. But if you remember Boris wasn't able to get enough votes from his party to stand last time round. He was also kept on a tight Ieash in the last election. I think these two items alone speak volumes.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Love her or loathe her, I'd hope that on at some human level you can only stand back and admire the sheer CONSTITUTION of somebody who withstood the constant hiding-to-nothing politicking of being Home Secretary for six full years. And now has to deal with the aftermath of multiple terrorist attacks and a full blown mass fire death scandal, all in her own back yard, while all the while trying to fend off being stabbed in the back by her own back benchers on account of a failed vanity election. Like I say, love her or loathe her - and I personally loathe her - you can only look on in wonder at how somebody would want to even stay on in that utterly thankless job. It certainly can't be for the money.

 

[GT49er]

She's lost at sea without Fiona Hill & Nick Timothy telling what to do and say now.

If those two were the ones whose advice she took, she's a darned sight better off without them!