[Albion] Maty Ryan. Discuss.

[Peter Grummit]

I should preface my comments by saying I don't do knee jerk reactions and am definitely in the 'licker' rather than 'bedwetter' camp.

It's clearly very early days but I do already have serious concerns about Ryan.

Before he signed there were reports that he was a good shot stopper and a skilful distributor, but some observors said he made too many simple errors. To date, that is precisely what he has shown.

For the Atleti error, to my mind he was already thinking about how to spring an attack before he caught the ball and that was the reason for the howler.

Today, I've only seen the game live and had no sight of replays, but for the first goal, he simply has to get behind that shot and hang on to it. For the 2nd, I was dead in line with the goal line so had a perfect view of the flight of the corner. It was a straightforward delivery, no spin or swerve, and was 4 yards out from goal. Now Duffy was bullied by the goalscorer and clearly lost the header. But, at 4 yards out, you need your goalie to come and deal with those, or every PL team analyst and manager will be plotting to swing set plays in that close.

My other concern, as one or two have mentioned, is Maty's body language and confidence.

To my mind, Maeenpaa has had little opportunity and done nothing wrong. He is clearly a decent athlete and big unit. I wouldn't have a problem with him getting a chance in the League as well as the cups.

PG

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[BBassic]

if he doesn't make a mistake why would u put Ryan back in ??
Ryan's mistakes would have happened at any level .

I'll refer you to my later post. Ryan wouldn't be in the position of making mistakes if our midfield would step up and do their bloody job.

 

[Dolph Ins]

I'll refer you to my later post. Ryan wouldn't be in the position of making mistakes if our midfield would step up and do their bloody job.

I would also point out that very few of our team have covered themselves in glory so far this season, so to pick on our goalie is a little unfair.

Unless of course I missed the threads on Stephens discuss, Propper discuss, Murray discuss, etc etc.

 

[Stat Brother]

To put it another way. It's unfair to blame Ryan for anything but the soft Dunk own goal. Why? Because our midfield should be stronger and better on the ball. We, and Ryan, are in for a f**king long season if Stephens and Propper don't start earning their wages.

But Stephens and Propper's job is so hard at the moment, because their opposite numbers know they don't have to do any defending.
Assuming the Albion can get a player or 2 that'll have the opposition midfield thinking about their own goal as well as ours, Double D will have a tiny bit more time with the ball.

 

[Albumen]

A new GK is always a difficult one, the team can't carry them while they adjust, let's just hope he adjusts quickly.

 

[ferring seagull]

The thing here is that some of us, perhaps many of us can't quite understand why we signed a GK for £5m, who currently appears not up to task having allowed DS to leave apparently because we did not offer him a contract long enough for him to see through his offspring's senior education.
Thereafter we have ignored NM who is an international GK and who has NEVER, as far as I can see, let us down on any occasion he has been asked to start for the Albion.
Perhaps even more significantly, we have in Christian Walton, a young GK who has represented and currently represents our country at international level. Can anyone please tell me just how long it is anticipated that we will continue his development ?
The situation is beyond my understanding !

 

[Iggle Piggle]

I should preface my comments by saying I don't do knee jerk reactions and am definitely in the 'licker' rather than 'bedwetter' camp.

It's clearly very early days but I do already have serious concerns about Ryan.

Before he signed there were reports that he was a good shot stopper and a skilful distributor, but some observors said he made too many simple errors. To date, that is precisely what he has shown.

For the Atleti error, to my mind he was already thinking about how to spring an attack before he caught the ball and that was the reason for the howler.

Today, I've only seen the game live and had no sight of replays, but for the first goal, he simply has to get behind that shot and hang on to it. For the 2nd, I was dead in line with the goal line so had a perfect view of the flight of the corner. It was a straightforward delivery, no spin or swerve, and was 4 yards out from goal. Now Duffy was bullied by the goalscorer and clearly lost the header. But, at 4 yards out, you need your goalie to come and deal with those, or every PL team analyst and manager will be plotting to swing set plays in that close.

My other concern, as one or two have mentioned, is Maty's body language and confidence.

To my mind, Maeenpaa has had little opportunity and done nothing wrong. He is clearly a decent athlete and big unit. I wouldn't have a problem with him getting a chance in the League as well as the cups.

PG

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100% this. I rarely work in absolutes but Ryan looks statuesque and more worrying is Duffy / Dunk reaction to him. Something needs to change quick.

The other new signings haven't set the world on fire but there is enough there to think they will get better. Ryan looks shot of confidence already.

 

[BensGrandad]

I'll refer you to my later post. Ryan wouldn't be in the position of making mistakes if our midfield would step up and do their bloody job.

I didnt go but could you tell me how our midfield contributed to the first goal, which is the bone of contention this evening?

 

[dwayne]

The guys way out of his depth. You got to hand it to him he's blagged a place in a premier league team and probably gets paid well over a million quid a year.




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[terryberry1]

David Stockdale would have stopped 3 of the 4 goals we conceded so far this season.

 

[Bozza]

When the contract non-negotiations with Stockdale were (not) ongoing, I did wonder if we were seeing a repeat of the Murray situation:

A decent incumbent is seen as being expendable at a higher level with a (relatively) expensive replacement brought in, supposedly being a step-up in class.

I do hope that Maty Ryan doesn't turn out to be our next CMS.

 

[Albion100]

I'm really worried from what I have seen. I appreciate that every GK makes mistakes and these can cost goals, but this season especially we need a confident GK that is commanding and has a great relationship with the defence. Stockdale had this so I don't know why we didn't secure him for this season with whatever he wanted. It's going to take a fair while for Dunk, Duffy etc to have the same relationship and trust in Ryan and I hope when/if they do it's not too late.

 

[Bry Nylon]

You got to hand it to him he's blagged a place in a premier league team and probably gets paid well over a million quid a year

He'd probably drop it ...

 

[Deadly Danson]

David Stockdale would have stopped 3 of the 4 goals we conceded so far this season.

Like the one that cost us the title - his last game for us?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I didnt go but could you tell me how our midfield contributed to the first goal, which is the bone of contention this evening?

Murphy made a poor decision when we were attacking (10% blame for me), consequently all the midfield were out of position, as they broke. Mahrez ran 40 yds untouched, Suttner made the most pathetic attempt imaginable to stop him(50% blame) and Ryan although making a save parried to onrushing forward (40%). All IMO of course.

Ryan taking stick, but Suttner, I mean feck me!


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[Kosh]

The thing here is that some of us, perhaps many of us can't quite understand why we signed a GK for £5m, who currently appears not up to task having allowed DS to leave apparently because we did not offer him a contract long enough for him to see through his offspring's senior education.
Thereafter we have ignored NM who is an international GK and who has NEVER, as far as I can see, let us down on any occasion he has been asked to start for the Albion.
Perhaps even more significantly, we have in Christian Walton, a young GK who has represented and currently represents our country at international level. Can anyone please tell me just how long it is anticipated that we will continue his development ?
The situation is beyond my understanding !

This is a good post and bears repeating.

 

[Nixonator]

Feck me, after that toothless performance we're blaming the goalie again?

I think we should be more concerned at the lack of a real chance carved out in 180+mins other than a fortuitous bounce to Duffy from splayed shot.

But don't let that distract you from a good witch hunt. Carry on.

 

[Beach Hut]

He is about as crap as everyone said Stockdale was when he first arrived

 

[RaphaelMeade]

Anyone who saw Ryan's warm-up at Crawley, pre-season, would have had concerns over his handling.

Not seen anything subsequent to believe this was a one off.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

He catches crosses ok it is his handling of shots that is suspect as he pushes the ball back into the danger area too often.

Wrong. he doesn't come for crosses like the second goal. Any scout for opposition teams will highlight this.